[GMT4me]

is James sporting a Rolex and what model is it? I am curious....:confused1:

 

[DarkHeart]

Not sure about which movie, but I believe 007 wears a Submariner (no date).

 

[bullandvodka]

There are something close to 30 Bond films? People have noticed the odd Breitling and Hamilton I believe in some films. Remember that Bond had his watch, but often Q would give him a "mission" watch. However generally, Bond's personal watch was one of 3 brands.

The most famous from the Connery era was a no date military model Rolex Sub that Ian Fleming told was issued by the Bonds Royal Navy. This model lasted for several of the early films. While I'm not sure, I don't believe Rolex paid for the product placement.

In some of the middle films, Rodger Moore wore a Seiko digital (as was fashionable in the 70s). I'm not sure if Seiko paid for product placement.

Current films have sold the watch placement rights to Omega. Dalton, Brosnan, and Craig have all worn different Omega models.

 

[GMT4me]

So which of the early ones was the Sub featured?

 

[DarkHeart]

Just taking a guess here. I think Dr. No and To Russia With Love (the first two Bond films).

 

[Dell Deaton]

Ian Fleming said what--?

... The most famous from the Connery era was a no date military model Rolex Sub that Ian Fleming told was issued by the Bonds Royal Navy. This model lasted for several of the early films....

What's your basis for this attribution to Ian Fleming? I'd never heard this before, so I find it interesting. :confused1:

Good Post; good questions!

 

[bullandvodka]

What's your basis for this attribution to Ian Fleming? I'd never heard this before, so I find it interesting. :confused1:

Good Post; good questions!

You got me Dell, now that I think about it I'm not sure. I must admit that I've been satisfied with the movies and never felt the need to read the books. I've looked at the "Bond + Watch" websites I remember going to and I don't see it there at a glance. So I'm not sure where I heard it, but I didn't think twice about it. I knew the Royal Navy issued special "military" Subs to their special forces. Those are super collectible. Bond was a Commander in the Royal Navy. Fleming as a Royal Navy Commander in WW2 would have known those things very well.

 

[bullandvodka]

@ Dell: Now that I search on it, its everywhere. http://www.thewatchplaceonline.com/Archive/JamesBondWatch01.pdf

 

[Dell Deaton]

Fleming. Ian Fleming

... I knew the Royal Navy issued special "military" Subs to their special forces. Those are super collectible. Bond was a Commander in the Royal Navy. Fleming as a Royal Navy Commander in WW2 would have known those things very well.

Thanks for the link. Certainly I knew of (and read!) Ian Fleming reference to the James Bond Rolex in his novels. But nothing about any of these specifically being a Submariner model, military or otherwise.

Beyond that, I dunno how far I'd go in relying on Mr. Fleming's personal knowledge of things such as watches, and certainly not as it relates to history. For example, author Andrew Lycett in his extensive biography titled, Ian Fleming: The Man Behind James Bond, states that Ian Fleming had little interest in or awareness of history, including that beyond his realm in events of which he was a part (eg, World War II). We also know for a fact that he didn't get the spelling right for 007's favorite gun, a .25 Beretta, and often picked names simply because they sounded good.

Nice discussion. I appreciate it! :wink:

 

[JBHII]

You won't see a Rolex in any of the Bond movies once Pierce Brosnan started as Bond in 1995's GOLDEN EYE. Before that, a Rolex could be seen in most of the Bond movies (I believe one of the Roger Moore movies more promimantly featured Seiko if memory serves...).

For 16610 lovers, 1989's LICENSE TO KILL features the Sub Date quite a bit...particularly in the underwater scenes. For more broadbased horological eyecandy, 1969's ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE features several watch brand cameos, including what appears to be a Pre-Daytona Cosmograph.

 

[joachim]

is James sporting a Rolex and what model is it? I am curious....:confused1:

thunderball? submariner?

 

[Dell Deaton]

Thunderball Submariner Wristwatch

thunderball? submariner?

My current preferred authority for this information is Martin Skeet & Nick Urul, in Vintage Rolex Sports Models: A Complete Visual Reference & Unauthorized History (Atglen, Pennsylvania: Schiffer Publishing, Ltd., 2005). Here's the quote:

"Today all the early Submariners without crown guards are known to collectors as James Bond models, after the Submariner's appearance in the first four James Bond films - despite the fact that it is only the 6538, 6200 and 5510 models that appear in the films."​

Thunderball, of course, is the fourth 007 film. There are a couple of nice close-ups of this watch here, which is worn on a NATO strap. From these, this looks the same as the Goldfinger (third film) wristwatch presentation.

 

[bullandvodka]

I never needed a reason to rewatch those films, but I'm interested in seeing some of these scenes.

 

[Dell Deaton]

Dr. No

I never needed a reason to rewatch those films, but I'm interested in seeing some of these scenes.

This is a Post after my own heart. :biggrin:

Starting w/ Dr. No and just a preliminary frame-by-frame review, I counted over fifty critical time points for important James Bond wristwatch details. :w00t:

 

[mike]

The classic shot,

But why does everyone forget Ms. Galore and her wonderful 6542.:thumbup:

 

[JBHII]

Thanks for pointing that one out Mike!

 

[Dell Deaton]

Timothy Dalton Rolex?

See also this Thread: Understanding 1680 > 16800 > 16610 models? for information on the last Timothy Dalton James Bond watch, in Licence to Kill.

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