When buying.....

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.....while you may factor in pre-loved, do you consider vintage too?

A number of members here collect vintage, Sam, Keiron and Gee Jaay for instance have a wealth of styles in their respective collections. Some of us have watches purchased from some way back. Had I not been relieved of it, I would still have my old gold Connie which was a graduation gift from my parents. That apart, I've never had an inkling to go vintage.

There is one exception of course - The Speedy Pro. However with the Speedy Pro, the primary appearance has not altered with the exception of the early CK models and of course the pre-moon models with the applied Omega logo. I wish Omega had retained the applied logo on all the Speedy Pros. It was on the Gemini !V so why not say a 3573.50 as well?

I have given much thought to acquiring older Speedies. For one, I like the "RG" plating on the early 145.022s which were in production until 1982 I believe. Then they went onto " YG " and finally Rhodium. I had toyed with the idea of converting the caseback to reveal the movement.

One thing does hold me back about vintage watches though - durability.

The Speedy Pro has in its' Lemania-based movement a thoroughbred mechanical workhorse which has seen it come through test after test, both in controlled conditions and out in the field as it were. However an older version, while serviced regularly is still an older version. You wouldn't expect a 60s or early 70s car to perform in the same manner as a modern equivalent, would you? My mindset on this extends to watches as well. Man's ability to put together a more robust movement has increased with time. I would say that an 1120 for example was a more robust movement than a c321 or 861 or indeed even a 1861. I know too from personal experience and through discussing with others.

Hence when I buy, I generally do not look at vintage. I'm not totally attracted to vintage styling. At least not generally for keeps and while earlier models of the Speedy Pro have their attractions, I am always minded about buying a mature horse as opposed to a young 'un.

My 2c

How about you pals? Do you consider vintage?

Talk soon and y'all have a good week now

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Well, as someone who's collection has bias toward vintage (though I admit some weren't vintage when I bought them LOL!), my experience has been properly serviced vintage pieces can certainly perform to there original specs and from a timekeeping perspective are the equal of many of their modern counterparts.

Granted modern timepieces have certain advantages as to scratch resistance-sapphire opposed to acryllic-, perhaps some improvement in clasp and bracelet design, (though some would argue that :laugh:), but at the heart some of the older movements were monsters of engineering that could (can) absorb tremendous punishment.

Certainly where viewing under less than ideal conditions, the vintage professional model can't compare with it's modern counterpart, ( Tritium dies.:sad:) and here the modern counterpart rules--well short of doing things to a vintage piece that most collectors view as bad.

I've never been one to abuse a watch, though I admit I've never been afraid to use one in the manner it was designed and can honestly say whether modern or vintage I've never had an issue.

Granted there are a few pieces that now see less exposure than once they did, but that's a factor of pricing and replacement (and to be honest some sentiment) rather than a concern as to it's durability.

My 861 Speedmaster runs at an honest +2 sec. a day. My new LE Speedmaster runs at--+2 sec a day.

Boy you'd think after 30 years Omega could have worked the bugs out! :laugh::laugh:
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