I'm new to this forum, but I have gone a little nutty buying Speedmasters lately. In the last few weeks I have bought the following: 105.003-64, 105.003-65, 145.012-67, and now an 861 from 1969. I'm planning some service and part swapping, etc for the watches, but I would like to know what you Speedmaster guys think of patina. The 64 pre pro watch is totally original...in fact it hasn't been serviced since 1977.....you read that right....1977. It's still running strong and keeping good time, but it'll be off for service after the first of the year. That's quite a testament to these watches, I think. Anyway, that watch has the typical darkened markers on the dial, and I am debating whether to leave them exactly as they are or have Jesse in Albany clean them up and re lum them. Sure it would be nice to have them stand out from the dial...and glow in the dark, but what do you all think in terms of value down the road...and just plain what you like best. I know I don't want the dial to look new. As it is, the markers almost disappear into the dark dial. Oh...and one more question: The crown appears to be a bit smaller than the crown on the 145.012. Is that correct? Were they different sizes? I'll put up some photos of the whole group in the coming days...if anyone cares to see them. I think I'm done buying for now, but I may have to pick up a 105.012 just for good measure. I already had a recent model that got me started looking at the others. I can stop ANY time....really.