[scottw44]

One of the best looking watches I have seen from Ball, and available in rose or stainless.
pic and description from About Time

Ball Trainmaster Cleveland Express Dual Time Pink Gold Watch
Model #gm1020d-pg-lcj-sl

Pink Gold (Red Gold) 41mm diameter case (height 12.5mm). Silver dial. Automatic Cal. ETA 2836-2 with COSC certification. Universal Military time window with Ball date warning system at the 11 o'clock position. GMT 2nd time indication with red hand on dial. Slightly domed anti-reflective sapphire crystal. Gold Arabic hour numerals. Hours, minutes, sweep seconds, date indication; 16 micro gas tubes on hour, minute, GMT hand, seconds hand and dial for night reading capability. Exhibition sapphire case back. Screwed-in crown, water-resistant to 50m; shock-resistant – withstands 5,000Gs shock test. Genuine crocodile leather strap with gold loop and tang buckle.

 

[scottw44]

One thing I would do is set the UTC window so it always showed GMT. Since it is a wheel, it can just be installed and positioned so that GMT (or O+UTC or ZULU ...all the same thing) show contantly in that window.

And then the watch would have three zones...home, local, and true UTC.

 

[HockeyBrand]

Is this the production model Scott? I seem to remember that the UTC window was labelled like the Night Train at one time? Now it says Auto-UTC above the 6.

 

[scottw44]

Is this the production model Scott? I seem to remember that the UTC window was labelled like the Night Train at one time? Now it says Auto-UTC above the 6.

I am told that this is the official model.

 

[HockeyBrand]

Little idiosyncrasies that I'm noticing that become large for myself just as the CB. :sad:

But I think I like the pre-production version more.

Here is what I like with this pre-production model pictured:

The overall balance of the wording above the 6.

Chronometer
UNIVERSAL TIME COORDINATED
AUTOMATIC
50 METERS​

Next I really like the contrast of the silver starburst shimmering dial versus this production flat white dial.

Next I also notice on the rose/pink gold that there is accented brushed finish on the casing lugs versus the bezel. The production model appears to be all polished.


What I do like on the current production model is the UTC numbers converted from Arial to Times New Roman. That is indeed a nice touch! :thumbup1:

 

[HockeyBrand]

ps: of course if I hadn't seen the previous prototype before this incarnation...I agree I'd be willing to part with hard earned money! :thumbup:

 

[bullosa]

One thing I would do is set the UTC window so it always showed GMT. Since it is a wheel, it can just be installed and positioned so that GMT (or O+UTC or ZULU ...all the same thing) show contantly in that window.

And then the watch would have three zones...home, local, and true UTC.

Can the UMT be set independant of the hour hand? If it works, then this is great.

 

[HockeyBrand]

Can the UMT be set independant of the hour hand? If it works, then this is great.

Scott can go into better detail how he would make the Hour hand and Red GMT hand work. Different colour and reversing the placement on the Cannon pin, correct Scott?

 

[scottw44]

The UMT is tied to the main hour hand...it is not settable seperately. The watch is a two time zone watch which also displays the main time in the miilitary window as well.

Here is my crazy idea from a few months back. Of course we'd have to make one hand shorter, one longer ,etc...
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Let me start out by saying how much I like this watch. But I really would like it to be a true GMT/UTC, but the UTC window is linked to the main hand, and the second zone does not operate on a 24 hour scale, thus a dual time, but can it be more?

So, as it stands, I would describe this model as a dual time with a military display linked to the main hour hand. Technically, as it stands, we can't define the top window as a UTC as it is linked to the main hour hand.

And now, the idea. What if Ball would use the main time hand as the secondary zone as it is linked to the Military Window. So this hand would now be red. It would also work in conjunction with the Military window, achieving a true UTC/GMT function.

The hand that currently is used as a the second time zone, the "red hand," would now be painted green.

And there you have it...we have just made the Cleveland Express a true UTC/GMT without having to change the design at all...just flip flop the hour hands, and reverse their sizes.

 

[HockeyBrand]

My attempt at visualizing Scott's plan! Larger green hand is the main one. Red smaller one is tied to the UTC window.

 

[timefinder]

BTW, the 4th hand would drive me nuts. It is the same size as the hour hand, and a quick look,especially at night, could give me the wrong time. Not a fan!!

 

[scottw44]

My attempt at visualizing Scott's plan! Larger green hand is the main one. Red smaller one is tied to the UTC window.

You are skilled my friend:thumbup: Hockey player, poker star, photoshop genious. I can barely type.

 

[HockeyBrand]

No Photoshop!

I've read and seen how great it is! I'm still just using MS Paint! :blush:

I will definitely spring for the program. There are even a few Web pages that I signed up for that have Jewelry/Watch creation 3D design! But I'll stick to photoshop as it's really practical for improving pictures already taken of watches.

 

[scottw44]

No Photoshop!

I've read and seen how great it is! I'm still just using MS Paint! :blush:

I will definitely spring for the program. There are even a few Web pages that I signed up for that have Jewelry/Watch creation 3D design! But I'll stick to photoshop as it's really practical for improving pictures already taken of watches.

I can do web design, but someone else does the photoshop stuff. I envy folks who can do that. I am more like a techie I guess.

 

[HockeyBrand]

I saw this on Marty's wrist when i stepped into About Time. The Rose is actually Red! So rich in colour I was jealous! And the Raised numeral markers in gold as well! This is a gorgeous piece!!

http://www.abouttime.com/abouttime/ball-watches.invtc.html

 

[scottw44]

this is one of my favorites of the newer Ball Watches. I wish they would use a 2893 as a base though.

 

[Abouttime]

Cleveland Express Dualtime

I am holding the watch in my hand and just to make it very clear...

It is a dual time watch.. regular time with the black hands and a second time zone with the red hands. The window on the watch shows military time. Under this military time window there is a small triangle cutout which turns red in color when you should not change the date.

It is a very nicely done timepeice.

 

[jeremyfromball]

this is one of my favorites of the newer Ball Watches. I wish they would use a 2893 as a base though.

The base movement is a 2893 chronometer.

Regards,
Jeremy

 

[LadyWis]

So, you can only change the hour? if it's 8 a.m. edt here, we know it's 12 p.m. UTC. But what about in India, where it's UTC+5 1/2, or Nepal, UTC+5 3/4?:blink:

 

[LadyWis]

P.S. it's a gorgeous watch.

A steel case with rose gold numbers would also be beautiful.