OK so the grail came in yesterday. I gotta say it is nicer than I anticipated. It is a large watch, which I wanted, but not as heavy as my Venom. The detail in the face is extrodinary!! The watch wears light and is much more comfortable than I expected. I got a bunch of comments at dinner last night and it's "unveiling." lol Overall i'm very pleased with it. I have to give a special thanks to Ken at Time 4-less Watches. I called and ordered over the phone. He was great. Its so nice to actually speak to a human. The watch came in a few days and it was packaged really well. I've got "watch in a box" before and was impressed with how well the watch came packaged. So without further adeu.....