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I was just curious what this means:

"Anti-reflective mineral crystal with sapphire coating"

I saw that description on the speedway II.
Is that as scratch resistant as a sapphire crystal?
How do you coat a mineral crystal with Sapphire?

Just a quick question.
Any info would be appreciated.
 

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Good question, Gary. I've heard it adressed as "The shatterproof mineral combined with the scratchproof sapphire". How they do it, I have no idea. And, to complicate the thread further, is the anti-reflective quality for the inside of the crystal or outside, or both?
 

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I was just curious what this means:

"Anti-reflective mineral crystal with sapphire coating"

I saw that description on the speedway II.
Is that as scratch resistant as a sapphire crystal?
How do you coat a mineral crystal with Sapphire?

Just a quick question.
Any info would be appreciated.
I wondered that just yesterday and googled "sapphire coating"... pretty interesting process.

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Seiko had sapphlex

which was a mineral glass/sapphire bi-layer crystal for their divers. Apparently, it offered the best compromise between tensile strength and hardness.

Some bezels are also sapphire coated.

I doubt the mineral crystal is coated with sapphire for a budget watch though. It'll be cheaper to manufacture whole sapphire crystals I think. After all, you can find them in $200 and under watches today.
 

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As far as AR coating, it is usually applied to the underside of the crystal and is meant to eliminate the reflection from the hands and markers. Some brands like Omega apply AR coating to the top of the crystal as well, but it is very scratch -prone, and in my opinion does not look good after a while.
 

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Sapphire coating on mineral crystals is the best compromise between scratch-shatter resistance. Hardened mineral crystals are used in most diver watches since the sapphire type is more prone to shatter into pieces under heavy underwater pressure.

On the other hand, sapphire crystals are more scratch resistant than hardened mineral ones but as stated before, a sudden hit might easily break them apart, even in "dry" situations.

The anti-reflection treatment is used for the inside surface of the crystal. Afaik, the outer anti-reflection performance can be achieved only by using dome-shaped crystals and not flat ones. I have three chronographs that use sapphire crystals with anti-reflective treatment and I can assure you that their outer surface reflects sun rays like a plain mirror... So, if you want outer a-r treatment, have a look at dome-shaped crystals (either sapphire or not).

Most extra large diver watches (down to more than 200m) are made of hardened mineral crystal not only because a large sapphire crystal costs a whole lot more than a mineral one but also because the pressure vs crystal surface renders the crystal suffering a lot while working very deep. So, a sapphire crystal living at 200m underwater will easily break even while facing a gentle hit. So, under these depths, even its scratch resistance is eliminated (or is rendered insignificant) by its low impact tolerance. Add to that the extra pressure added while moving your hand rapidly and its no brainer why a mineral crystal is the best choice for divers.

So, when both worlds meet (hardened mineral with sapphire outer coating), you've got a crystal that will survive almost every nasty situation. The thing is that not all mineral crystals have pro-level sapphire coating implementations, so some of them tend to peel-off after a couple of years...:sneaky2:

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To balance things out fairly, Sapphire is capable of withstanding extreme depths. It just needs to be very thick. The Panerai Submersible is capable of 2000 meters with Sapphire. You guys with SAN's know how thick your crystals are.
 

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To balance things out fairly, Sapphire is capable of withstanding extreme depths. It just needs to be very thick. The Panerai Submersible is capable of 2000 meters with Sapphire. You guys with SAN's know how thick your crystals are.
Thats a very useful piece of info. I believe this is why some (real) divers come really thick (>1,5mm) but there are many other divers out there that sport a sapphire crystal and still come less than 1,3mm in thickness.

Hmm... :sneaky2:
 
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