Invicta mechanical chronograph question

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I saw Eyal selling the Invicta Men's Ocean Ghost Mechanical Chronograph Watch on TV yesterday.

I did a google search and the model numbers are 4728, 4729, 4730, 4731, & 4732. The banner at the bottom of the TV screen read "Swiss Made". And this is what the website says 'Movement: Mechanical 1902'. World of Watches website says 'Movement: Japan 1902 mechanical chronograph, 22 jewels'.

Is this movement Swiss, Japanese, or Chinese? I got a reply back on another forum and they said it was a Technica Swiss Ebauche. And another that said that Invicta makes its own movements now.

I believe it is a Seagull ST1902 manual wind movement. This movement is one of the better Chinese movements, IMHO. I own a watch with a Seagull 1901 movement and it is rock solid and very accurate.

I couldn't find a picture of the display back on the Invicta but here is a picture of mine.

What really got to me was that Eyal was touting the sub dial at 6 o'clock and saying that they had specially designed this feature for this watch. It is an hour hand that mirrors the main hour hand. A common practice to give a watch the full '3 subdial' look. He was actually turning the crown to make the hour hand and the sub dial hour hand go around. Touting a useless subdial!! Gheeshh!

My ST1901 doesn't have the third subdial and I prefer it that way.

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I think what they mean when they refer to Swiss "whatever" is that the Asian watchmaker who assembles the watch had a third cousin who was once dating a person who knew a person that knew a real Swiss watchmaker from Switzerland. Even so, the majority of my watches are Invicta. No one here is being duped. I am sure we are all aware of what the guidelines are that allow the various brands to claim "Swiss Made",etc.:001_rolleyes:
What about the non-WIS, the people who watch the TV show and don't know much of watches, brands and movements?, and while watching that show perhaps hear the "swiss made words" and feel like buying some of those "swiss wathever" watches that Lalo and his partners are selling?

Shouldn't they deserve the right to be informed? Why not saying something like this for once and for all?: "This watch was assembled in Panamá, the bracelet comes from Taiwan, the movement is made in Switzerland, etc." I think that would be fair to the customer.
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