I like the way they look, but I don't like the prices or the pitch. If Zodiac can put out great fit and finish Swiss Made watches for under 300.00 with Ronda D and F series movements, Renato should be able to as well. As many of you really don't like Eyal Lalo, I really don't like Daniel Mink. We are both being petty and shallow, but sometimes that's fun!