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Pocket Watches...
Welcome to the American Forum Jackie!
There are SO many kinds of Pocket Watches out there, from some great American companies... keep checking in here for more examples.
If you do get one, don't forget to show us a picture!:thumbup1:
tbarry...
Awsome pictures of a beautiful PW!!!
Thanks:thumbup:
Welcome to the American Forum Jackie!
There are SO many kinds of Pocket Watches out there, from some great American companies... keep checking in here for more examples.
If you do get one, don't forget to show us a picture!:thumbup1:
tbarry...
Awsome pictures of a beautiful PW!!!
Thanks:thumbup:
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Come on Ham! Give in, you are helpless, A true WIS!
Don't make this harder than it has to be...
You know you want one:T
(seller photo)
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Railroad Standard Time Introduced:
This is a pretty cool PW story with a neat watch.
Railroad Standard Time Introduced:
During the early years most trains were operated on a single track,
with sidings provided at intervals to allow trains to pass each other.
Railroads operated using a timetable in order to avoid
collisions between trains and to move trains efficiently
over the railroad lines. Timetable operation required that
all moving trains use a standardized time.
Each railroad began to try to standardize time based
on the local time standard adopted by its home city
or an important city on its line. Mistakes and errors
were frequent and sometimes disastrous. (Railswest.com)
The Great Kipton Train Wreck:
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Oberlin Weekly News, April 23, 1891
The local passenger train from the east was behind schedule
and instead of waiting at Oberlin for the fast mail train to
pass by from the west, went on to Kipton. A freight train
was sitting on the siding that the engineer had planned to
use and going eight miles an hour by this time sought a
second siding. The mail train came around the curve from
the west going forty-five miles an hour. The engineer's
view being blocked by the freight on the siding, he did
not see the passenger train in time to slow down.
Both engineers and a fireman were among those killed.
Three postal clerks sorting mail also died.
The accident occurred on April 18th
and eight people died in the crash.
Because of Wrecks like these,
A new pocket watch standard was begun:
Standard Requirements (General)
collectionoftimes.com
Here is my Illinois Bunn Railroad Grade Pocketwatch:
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American Made 18 or 16 size
Fitted with 17 or more jewels
Temperature compensated
Adjusted to 5 positions
Lever Set
Timed to +/- 30 sec/week
Fitted with a:
Double roller
Patented regulator
Steel escape wheel
Plain White dial
Having:
Black Arabic Numerals
Each minute delineated
Open Face
Configured with the winding stem at 12 O'clock
This is a pretty cool PW story with a neat watch.
Railroad Standard Time Introduced:
During the early years most trains were operated on a single track,
with sidings provided at intervals to allow trains to pass each other.
Railroads operated using a timetable in order to avoid
collisions between trains and to move trains efficiently
over the railroad lines. Timetable operation required that
all moving trains use a standardized time.
Each railroad began to try to standardize time based
on the local time standard adopted by its home city
or an important city on its line. Mistakes and errors
were frequent and sometimes disastrous. (Railswest.com)
The Great Kipton Train Wreck:
Oberlin Weekly News, April 23, 1891
The local passenger train from the east was behind schedule
and instead of waiting at Oberlin for the fast mail train to
pass by from the west, went on to Kipton. A freight train
was sitting on the siding that the engineer had planned to
use and going eight miles an hour by this time sought a
second siding. The mail train came around the curve from
the west going forty-five miles an hour. The engineer's
view being blocked by the freight on the siding, he did
not see the passenger train in time to slow down.
Both engineers and a fireman were among those killed.
Three postal clerks sorting mail also died.
The accident occurred on April 18th
and eight people died in the crash.
Because of Wrecks like these,
A new pocket watch standard was begun:
Standard Requirements (General)
collectionoftimes.com
Here is my Illinois Bunn Railroad Grade Pocketwatch:
American Made 18 or 16 size
Fitted with 17 or more jewels
Temperature compensated
Adjusted to 5 positions
Lever Set
Timed to +/- 30 sec/week
Fitted with a:
Double roller
Patented regulator
Steel escape wheel
Plain White dial
Having:
Black Arabic Numerals
Each minute delineated
Open Face
Configured with the winding stem at 12 O'clock
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Scott,
"S.W.C. Co" is:
The Star Watch Case Co.
Otto A. Starke and Fred Herman founded the company in Elgin, IL in 1897. The company moved to Ludington, MI in 1905, where they eventually employed about 150 people.
Until WWI, only pocket watch cases were made. Afterwards, Wrist Watch Cases were added to the line. The company continued to make watch cases until at least the mid-1970's. Cases were solid gold, gold filled, rolled gold plate, sterling silver and eventually, chrome plated.
History of the American Watch Case, Warren H. Niebling, Whitmore Publishing, Philadelphia, PA, 1971
"The Star Watch Case Co., Jack Linahan, NAWCC Bulletin, No. 360, February, 2006, pp. 4-9.
"S.W.C. Co" is:
The Star Watch Case Co.
Otto A. Starke and Fred Herman founded the company in Elgin, IL in 1897. The company moved to Ludington, MI in 1905, where they eventually employed about 150 people.
Until WWI, only pocket watch cases were made. Afterwards, Wrist Watch Cases were added to the line. The company continued to make watch cases until at least the mid-1970's. Cases were solid gold, gold filled, rolled gold plate, sterling silver and eventually, chrome plated.
History of the American Watch Case, Warren H. Niebling, Whitmore Publishing, Philadelphia, PA, 1971
"The Star Watch Case Co., Jack Linahan, NAWCC Bulletin, No. 360, February, 2006, pp. 4-9.
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Here are a couple of Fobs... more like chains (Metal and Leather)
the FOB part sometimes had a weight or medallion on it, to counter
the weight of the watch. I have even seen some Illinois with
a pocket knife on the other end... those can be valuable!
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Hi Jim,
Welcome Aboard... as you can see, there are a lot of PW guys here
and your help is greatly appreciated. There is so much history
that was lost to time and any help provided is always welcome!:thumbup:
Great PW Solaz!:thumbup1:
Welcome Aboard... as you can see, there are a lot of PW guys here
and your help is greatly appreciated. There is so much history
that was lost to time and any help provided is always welcome!:thumbup:
Great PW Solaz!:thumbup1:
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Hi Jon,
Welcome to the American Forum!
A bunch of guys with PW's here...
Check out the following thread called "got a pocket watch?"
http://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/american-watch-forum/31433-got-pocket-watch.html
Would love to see your watches and any helpful info you can provide!:thumbup1:
Welcome to the American Forum!
A bunch of guys with PW's here...
Check out the following thread called "got a pocket watch?"
http://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/american-watch-forum/31433-got-pocket-watch.html
Would love to see your watches and any helpful info you can provide!:thumbup1:
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Great entrance Mac! Welcome to the American Forum...Actually, I've several. But here are a couple to whet your appetites!
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Waltham Ball ORRS; 1923
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Hamilton 992b; ~1940 - My grandfather's watch
Enjoy!
Mac
Relax, look around, and stop by anytime!
Thanks for sharing!
And cszwed... Great Patek too!:thumbup1:
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WOW Jerry!
The enamel work on that PW is Incredible!!!!
Thanks so much for sharing with the gang!:thumbup:
Illinois made some very cool enamel wrist watches... I will post some soon.
G
The enamel work on that PW is Incredible!!!!
Thanks so much for sharing with the gang!:thumbup:
Illinois made some very cool enamel wrist watches... I will post some soon.
G
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Wren?
Jerry,
Wren has really some nice ladies Illinois,
but she is traveling this week.
I am sure she will post some of them when she gets back!:thumbup1:
That is a very cool diagram you posted there!
I think it is very nice to see the sizes all put out to see!
Thanks Jerry!
Jerry,
Wren has really some nice ladies Illinois,
but she is traveling this week.
I am sure she will post some of them when she gets back!:thumbup1:
That is a very cool diagram you posted there!
I think it is very nice to see the sizes all put out to see!
Thanks Jerry!
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Fantastic Pockets Guys!
Hey U,
I see the opening at "1" for the setting lever on the case, but I don't see the little lever? How it it set?
Jerry... 53!!!
Wow, that is RARE!
I love the silver around the "Sub 6" area.
Thanks guys for some more great PW's:thumbup:
Hey U,
I see the opening at "1" for the setting lever on the case, but I don't see the little lever? How it it set?
Jerry... 53!!!
Wow, that is RARE!
I love the silver around the "Sub 6" area.
Thanks guys for some more great PW's:thumbup:
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Jerry,
That dial is really interesting...
The words look almost "hand done"
I like the clean style and simplicity of it very much.
The shape of that bridge on the movement is awesome.
(reverse question mark shape)
I have never seen that one before... fantastic.
Keep em coming!!!:thumbup:
That dial is really interesting...
The words look almost "hand done"
I like the clean style and simplicity of it very much.
The shape of that bridge on the movement is awesome.
(reverse question mark shape)
I have never seen that one before... fantastic.
Keep em coming!!!:thumbup:
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That is Beautiful Jerry... LOVE the cupped jewel settings... real GOLD!Time to wear a different watch. This one is a 12-size Elgin from around 1903. It is a 19-jewel grade 193. The grade 193 was the third best Elgin movement in 12-size at the time and sold for about $61 in 1905. Some of this grade were also finished as a named "B.W. Raymond" equivalent to the grade 193. Benjamin W. Raymond was one of the founders, and first president, of the National Watch Co. in Elgin, Illinois, which became the Elgin National Watch Co. This particular movement happens to be custom marked for the respected jeweler, John Wanamaker of Philadelphia. I acquired it as a movement and it has been re-cased in a simple Swiss gunmetal case.
10852684f by JTreiman, on Flickr
10852684m by JTreiman, on Flickr
I particularly like the raised gold, nicely cupped jewel settings. The train wheels have a polished gold finish and it has a steel escape wheel. The balance screws are all gold.
10852684mdt by JTreiman, on Flickr
1905:
Average new home, $3000
Ford Model F, $1200
U... There is is!RJ007 - it's there, just hiding in the shadows...
Jerry - that "53" is sweet!
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I was wondering where it was hiding... great Photo!
Thanks for sharing that Beauty!:001_tt1:
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Wow Omega...
That is Sweet! the detail is just beautiful.
Is this a personal project?
How did you do the polishing?
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Welcome to the American Forum lankyman!
Enjoy the place, relax and check out the cool
watches!
If you have some more info, by all means please do add it.
RJ
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