Are those the same sample silver, grey and matt black dials you have shown in the M61/62 dial samples thread? :confused1:Working on molds already for those. They will be for 2013. Awesome dials for those as well. The dials are halfway done. Similar to the M61 / M62 style cutout CNC dials.
Yup, you're absolutely right and only a few brands actually rate their watches to actual water resistance. Most are rated to a static pressure, not usable pressure rating (the association he's mentioning is the ISO standards). The "explanation" is that movement of the watch on the wrist in the water exerts additional pressure, so if you were to wave frantically at 50' you're exerting the equivalent pressure of many times that.He opined further and said most WR ratings are bogus and he would not recommend even swimming in them unless they are true divers. He claims most WR ratings are advertising ****ing matches. If you want to swim/dive get a Submariner or SeaDweller; unless the watch meets some association rating (I forgot the name?) don't go diving in them.
The M27 is only rated to 100m, and as such is not recommended by today's standards for SCUBA use. I wouldn't dive in it, but I'd certainly snorkel / swim in my M25 without hesitation (same rating)Anyone have any experiences swimming/diving with an M27 or Bull Series?
No problem! Though I can't take credit for it as it's a cut & paste from the web. As to if Lum-Tec's meet ISO standards, keep in mind there are different ISO standards. ISO 2281 speaks to all watch water resistancy standards, while 6425 is the divers watch standard. While probably only the 500M (and upcoming 300M) meet 6425, I'd imagine all the others meet 2281 standards. But that's just my 2 cents...Scott, thanks for that detailed well thought out reply. That's the information I was looking for. Does anyone know if Lum Tec meets ISO standards? perhaps maybe only their diver? My watch repair guy was of the opinion that if its not a true diver why take a chance on a nice watch for even swimming or snorkelling. I have gone surf fishing and swimming with my Magrette, Submariner, and Armida watches but I have never taken any of my Lum Tecs. To clarify, the reason I have not taken any of my LT's is because they are on nice leather straps. I am curious to see how many of us have actually gone diving or for that matter swimming with their LT's.
I don't know for sure, but I doubt it's very hard to meet it given the number of sub-$500 true diver watches are out there..On another note, is it difficult to meet ISO diving standards? I know that is part of Doxa's advertising engine. Plus, I don't have a cool orange dial in my collection.
There are quite a few sub-$500 dive watches that meet ISO 6425 standards, but aren't those generally manufactured by major watch companies with huge production volumes (Seiko, Citizen, and Orient) and not boutique watch companies?I don't know for sure, but I doubt it's very hard to meet it given the number of sub-$500 true diver watches are out there..
Weight is lighter but heavier than SS.How does cobalt chromium compare to tungsten? (weight, hardness / scratch resistance)
I can't wait to see concept renderings of this new cobalt chromium series; the material properties sound very promising! I think a combination polished/brushed case would look awesome (ie. something like a brushed case with a polished bezel). :thumbup1:Weight is lighter but heavier than SS.
Hardness is softer but not soft enough that you would be able to scratch it without diamond tools.
Color is more of a platinum tone.
Strength is the biggest asset to this material. It reaches close to the hardness of tungsten but it is not brittle like the tungsten is. It is extremely strong.
It is about 3x more expensive than tungsten carbide.
Pricing will be similar to the tungsten series as we will not be doing a Cobalt Chromium bracelet.
Construction will be much tighter and stronger than the M tungsten.
Brushed/matte finishes are possible.