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Dmitry, there are several ADs in London.

Personally I would be very careful shopping online. If you're looking for a used one, the FS forums here, ViaPaneristi.com, Paneristi.com, WatchUSeek.com, TimeZone.com and BigWatchForums.com are a good place to start.

Stay away from eBay...
 

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Dmitry, there are several ADs in London.

Personally I would be very careful shopping online. If you're looking for a used one, the FS forums here, ViaPaneristi.com, Paneristi.com, WatchUSeek.com, TimeZone.com and BigWatchForums.com are a good place to start.

Stay away from eBay...
thank you so, you would buy from one of this sites instead of paying full price in the shop?
 

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I did! Got my PAM210 off the FS forum on ViaPaneristi.com. Just make sure to CHECK REFERENCES for the seller and you should be fine.

As always buying from an established member is always a bit safer than a newer member.

I was just at Selfridge's (Oxford St.) today drooling over the watch cases. I got so excited over a PAM112F they had in the case! It was a NOS display piece and wasn't for sale. :sneaky2:
 

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If I could do it over again? I'd probably stay with my local AD Palladio. I was too anxious to jump on the Panerai craze several years back that I snapped in NYC at Tourneau. Now with the online AD's and reputable sellers such as above. Just like my Balls, I wouldn't mind ordering online and picking up later in the US. I did get this cool case and several other schwag sent to me periodically from NYC. (just as my wife gets an annual hand written Christmas letter and card to her from her ring jeweller!).

However I miss the Palladio party invites and schwag. :D I've written with others before about what are you paying for? The watch or the lifestyle and the schwag/party invites, service? I guess I'm one of those that don't necessarily look for the best deal. :tongue_smilie:
 

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I was in London a while back and went around several AD's to look at Panerai's with a view to buying. The models I liked were not on display so I went inside and was told "all we have is what you see" when I asked about them ordering me a particular model I was told they get given what amounts to a random selection of watches, so they cannot order me a particular one and that I would have to pop in when they expected a new delivery and see what they had, a bit awkward for me as i live 300 miles away from them.

So I admit I have considered buying elsewhere than an AD, but ideally for me I want to see the watch before I buy to try it on and be 100% and that it seems, is not possible.

Interested to hear if any UK people have a better experience than me.

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Stew there are lots of Panerai enthusiasts here in the UK. I would post a couple of Want To Buy adverts at the big forums and see what you can turn up. Then you can do a face-to-face, try the watch on, etc. It removes a LOT of the uneasiness with buying from a non-AD if you can do it in person.

Be glad you don't live in the States like I do, if I wanted to do a face-to-face with a 'Risti in California, it'd be a 4 hour flight each way! 300 miles ain't so bad.... ;)

But I appreciate your point. Another option is to find a way to try on the watch you think you want, then after you're sure which model is for you, you should be able to contact one of the Boutiques (they get all the stock, the ADs get what's left over) and see about ordering one. Or you could contact a big AD like Tourneau and see about ordering one.

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Hi Trent, thanks for the advice. I didn't know about the Boutiques, but they are some distance from me looking at the Panerai website (though a few days in Portofino or Firenze sound a nice trip). London may be 300 miles but this is England and that journey is probably 5 hours by road, maybe less by rail but, our service here hasn't been much good lately.

I may well try and get in touch with some one, though I have my eye on another watch or two at the moment, so no rush.

Like you said being able to try on the watch I want, and once happy, I could then source it elsewhere, is a nice idea. I have certainly dealt with one or two sellers of pre-owned watches who I feel I can trust, should they aquire one.

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I did! Got my PAM210 off the FS forum on ViaPaneristi.com. Just make sure to CHECK REFERENCES for the seller and you should be fine.

As always buying from an established member is always a bit safer than a newer member.

I was just at Selfridge's (Oxford St.) today drooling over the watch cases. I got so excited over a PAM112F they had in the case! It was a NOS display piece and wasn't for sale. :sneaky2:
i know! i went to Selfridge's 2 weeks ago, to try on IWC watch as i was shore thats what i wanted but they had a dummy of Paneria 0049, i tried it on and totally loved it!
having looked on the Internet and found the model of the same size only with power reserve, which i really like to have which is paneria 0241
(Harrods has dummy of that one! and it looks superb on my hand)


So, if i buy from AD i will definitely go for Harrods, but wouldnt mind getting it abit cheaper,

can i ask you how much you saved when got yours?
 

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i know! i went to Selfridge's 2 weeks ago, to try on IWC watch as i was shore thats what i wanted but they had a dummy of Paneria 0049, i tried it on and totally loved it!
having looked on the Internet and found the model of the same size only with power reserve, which i really like to have which is paneria 0241
(Harrods has dummy of that one! and it looks superb on my hand)


So, if i buy from AD i will definitely go for Harrods, but wouldnt mind getting it abit cheaper,

can i ask you how much you saved when got yours?
No problem. A new PAM210 would have been $4500 or so last fall, I believe. I got my 98% PAM210 for ~$3300 delivered. Now resale depends on how popular a model is on the used market. Luckily for me, the 210 seems to be a slow mover on the used market.
 

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Dimitry,

I have the same watch, PAM 241 and I love it. I changed my strap to Panerai brown/cordovan croc strap, because I didn't like the grain of the black one up close. I was told you cannot buy it the way I wanted it so I had to buy the watch with the black strap and then buy the brown strap. Also, the straps are VERY easy to change for a deployment clasp. One more thing, the 241 is a 40mm watch, which I need because I have the wrists of a 10 year old girl, but it also is not as sought after currently as the 44mm models.

 

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Dimitry,

I have the same watch, PAM 241 and I love it. I changed my strap to Panerai brown/cordovan croc strap, because I didn't like the grain of the black one up close. I was told you cannot buy it the way I wanted it so I had to buy the watch with the black strap and then buy the brown strap. Also, the straps are VERY easy to change for a deployment clasp. One more thing, the 241 is a 40mm watch, which I need because I have the wrists of a 10 year old girl, but it also is not as sought after currently as the 44mm models.

sounds good,i 40mm is great size i think the bigger model paneria0090would be to big for day-to-day use,

but yes great watch ,can i ask where did you buy it? and how much you payed?
 

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No problem. A new PAM210 would have been $4500 or so last fall, I believe. I got my 98% PAM210 for ~$3300 delivered. Now resale depends on how popular a model is on the used market. Luckily for me, the 210 seems to be a slow mover on the used market.
Thanks for the info,thats great saving! can you recommend the person you got it from?
 

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Dmitry, I bought it from a private seller. He was selling the 210 and a PAM GMT in order to fund his purchase of an 8 Day GMT PAM233.

If you're after a 40mm, that will make the hunt a little tougher, especially in the 2nd hand market.

Good luck!
 

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Well, I'm afraid you'll probably not find much of a discount on a new 241, regardless of if you buy from an AD or not. You'll probably save a little bit buying a new, not-from-an-AD PAM, but I bet it's not much.

Good luck!
 

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I bought from an AD in the states here that I have a good relationship with and was able to save 25%
Ah, the magic words. As just an average Joe off the street discounts are tough to come by. The sad, simple fact is that they don't need to discount them in order to sell most of them.

Like I said in my other post, if you're a good customer of that particular AD or it's a piece that doesn't sell well, you'll probably be able to get a discount. Otherwise, good luck to ya...
 
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