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Yep, the scammers are still running amok. They're getting worse on the forums and on eBay. I 'bought' a Rolex earlier today.




It's an older (pre-2000 per Milos) two tone Sub with an aftermarket serti dial. The listing said in broken English that it was priced for a fast sale. Yeah, at $1000! That's giving away the watch. At this point, I'm 85% sure it's bogus, and Milos' reply confirms it. Even though it's more than 13 years old, it's still a $5000-ish watch so I played along. I hit 'Buy It Now' and start having some fun. Kyle finds the stolen pictures are from a website called Becker Time (we won't go into their reputation) so I want to see if I can bait the scammer into bs'ing me some more. I ask for movement shots, and 3 more dial shots with the hands positioned in various ways and different dates. At the same time, I reported it to eBay. Don't you know it, they moved faster than I've ever seen - long before my fun even got started.






Anyway, the point of this thread is to remind you that as mechanical watches get more popular, thieves and scammers will become more prevalent.

Bottom line: IF YOU AREN'T ABSOLUTELY SURE OF A WATCH'S AUTHENTICITY ASK SOMEBODY FOR HELP!!!





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Funny how I complained about the Seller that Reneged and he was not punished other than my negative feedback. He even used eBay issue resolve center to have me change my feedback to a positive after he went from "I was traveling thus the delay, to a family member is in the Hosital to, the dog ate my watch, to I'm selling it for a friend and he changed his mind. Probably eBay takes Fake Merchandise more seriously as they should.
 

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Thanks for posting, ulack. With all the people that come here asking "Where can I find the best deal on a __(whatever)" or such, it's good to have reminders like this once in a while.
 

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Ya... They're literally everywhere on the bay. Luckily the ones with 0 or 1 feedbacks are kinda easy to point out. I hope you're really going to buy yourself a sub, pref a sea dweller in the near future.... Thanks for showing a small portion of what's out there
 

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I doubt you'll see Dennis do that. There are too many orphaned Omegas still out there. :lol::laugh::lol:
 

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Anyway...I'm glad you didn't get burnt on that one. Too, too many people do these days.
Yep, the reason for this thread. It pays to be suspicious until an item it proven authentic.

I hope you're really going to buy yourself a sub, pref a sea dweller in the near future....
I doubt you'll see Dennis do that. There are too many orphaned Omegas still out there. :lol::laugh::lol:
Hold on there! Don't rule out me getting a 40 mm Oyster case of some type. I've had a few in my possession over the years and liked the way they fit. The two that struck my fancy the most were the one skypilot bought (TT w/ black dial) and a late 60's Pepsi 1675 GMT. I could see a 70's no-date Sub on my wrist at some point.

$1000 for a Rolex sub:lol:
A grand will get you just the dial..
About right for a serti dial I think.

On ebay, general rule is always buy the sellers!
I'd say that's a rule everywhere! On another forum we busted 6 or 7 scammers inside of a month's time.
 

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There is a subgroup on another forum, some of you probably now the one, that concentrates on busting scammers and it is fun to watch.
I only buy Accutrons on ebay, they are very hard to fake although they can and often are modified to make them seem more desirable. More expensive watches I buy from more very trusted sellers and that has worked out very well.
With all the smash and grabs going on at Rolex stores, one must be very very careful to avoid buying stolen ones.
 

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There is a subgroup on another forum, some of you probably now the one, that concentrates on busting scammers and it is fun to watch.
I only buy Accutrons on ebay, they are very hard to fake although they can and often are modified to make them seem more desirable. More expensive watches I buy from more very trusted sellers and that has worked out very well.
With all the smash and grabs going on at Rolex stores, one must be very very careful to avoid buying stolen ones.
Brazen scammers once painted a sparrow in exotic colors and successfully pulled off the sale until somehow the bird got wet a few days later. True story.
 

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Hold on there! Don't rule out me getting a 40 mm Oyster case of some type. I've had a few in my possession over the years and liked the way they fit. The two that struck my fancy the most were the one skypilot bought (TT w/ black dial) and a late 60's Pepsi 1675 GMT. I could see a 70's no-date Sub on my wrist at some point.
+1 Get some variety in your diet.:biggrin:
 

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Brazen scammers once painted a sparrow in exotic colors and successfully pulled off the sale until somehow the bird got wet a few days later. True story.
Bet that ruffled the buyer's feathers!



+1 Get some variety in your diet.:biggrin:
Man, I own watches from Longines, Omega, IWC, VC, AP, Bulova, Timex, Waltham, JLC, LeCoultre, Universal Gen猫ve, Seiko, Breitling, Chronoswiss, Piaget, and Eterna. How much more variety do I need? And let's not go into the brands I've been through - it might take me a while to think of them all.

..... although there are a handful of watches from other brands I wouldn't mind or are on the Most Wanted list. :wink:
 

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Dang, really, looking at WRUW threads, I'd swear you only own an Omega or two:lol: I think those must be your favorites, though I know you have the VC, and Chronoswiss. I don't ever remember seeing you wearing a Longines, or IWC. Maybe I just skipped class that day....
Bet that ruffled the buyer's feathers!





Man, I own watches from Longines, Omega, IWC, VC, AP, Bulova, Timex, Waltham, JLC, LeCoultre, Universal Gen猫ve, Seiko, Breitling, Chronoswiss, Piaget, and Eterna. How much more variety do I need? And let's not go into the brands I've been through - it might take me a while to think of them all.

..... although there are a handful of watches from other brands I wouldn't mind or are on the Most Wanted list. :wink:
 

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Talk about to good to be true....

I called an AD the other day to discuss prices and get a quote on a new GO. He quoted me roughly 4500 for a 10k+ watch. It was an AD so I was very confused. He was even more confused as to why all of a sudden I got so excited and immediately wanted more than one of them.

Turned out we had a bad phone connection and he misheard what model I wanted....good deals for all were not had :(

To good to be true is because it is to good to be true.
 

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I miss seeing that Corum! :crying:
Yeah, that was a nice watch. If my eyesight was better or the date subdial was bigger I might have kept it up til I bought the Chronoswiss calendar moon phase Kairos. Here ya go - for old time's sake:






Dang, really, looking at WRUW threads, I'd swear you only own an Omega or two:lol: I think those must be your favorites, though I know you have the VC, and Chronoswiss. I don't ever remember seeing you wearing a Longines, or IWC. Maybe I just skipped class that day....
I have more Longines than any other brand - 16 as of now. I did sell my IWC's except for the caliber 401 ultra-thin. I just don't post as often in the WRUW threads as I used to, plus I find myself wearing the same handful of watches.

Talk about to good to be true....

I called an AD the other day to discuss prices and get a quote on a new GO. He quoted me roughly 4500 for a 10k+ watch. It was an AD so I was very confused. He was even more confused as to why all of a sudden I got so excited and immediately wanted more than one of them.

Turned out we had a bad phone connection and he misheard what model I wanted....good deals for all were not had :(

To good to be true is because it is to good to be true.
Ouch! Instant deflate, eh?
 

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Talk about to good to be true....

I called an AD the other day to discuss prices and get a quote on a new GO. He quoted me roughly 4500 for a 10k+ watch. It was an AD so I was very confused. He was even more confused as to why all of a sudden I got so excited and immediately wanted more than one of them.

Turned out we had a bad phone connection and he misheard what model I wanted....good deals for all were not had :(

To good to be true is because it is to good to be true.
Curses!!
...Foiled again.
 
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