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Hello again guys & fellow Arnie admirers & collectors,
it's good to be back with a close-up short study of the watch that Arnold wore in his Military drama action-packed film Commando.



As some of you brothers from (Military Services) will naturally know & for the other forum members reading this post, A Commando group is:
"An Expert team of amphibious military units & individuals trained for raids into enemy territory which include search & destroy missions & various covert ops, and are taken from the various special teams within that specific branch of Military force to form that elite team."

The wristwatch is an intergral part of a Special forces or other Special-Ops team uniform, with the Divers Wristwatch being the hallmark of Wristwatch choices worldwide for service in active Military Duty.

The "Seiko Divers" wristwatch has quite possibly had the largest following with service on many Military servicemans wrist's since the 1960's most notably with the Vietnam war & the useage of the 6105-8XXX models and Bellmatics and chronographs, right up to currently today serving in Iraq & Afghanistan with distinction.
Suffice to say, many vintage Seiko Diver 6105 & 6306/6309's and H558/H601's as well as Tuna's are still being proudly worn today by Military personnel on duty around the globe.

When Seiko unveiled the H558-500X series of Analog/Digital sport diver watches in the early 1980's, they became an instant hit with many of the USA's, European and International Military forces around the world.
Many elite US special ops teams wore these models entirely as an self-issued Personal & Duty watch, that held the much needed & desired Military used distinctive features most notably used dual 12/24 hour time modes with Countdown features & alarm with backlite display with hacking feature. (Shown below is my NOS H558-5009)



~With the action packed films of Commando & others such as Raw Deal, the H558-500X sport diver watches have attracted a huge following in the watch Collectors community as well as all others.
No where is that feeling of hard core WISdom of the attachment to Military & heroism seen more, than in the 1985 Film (Commando) starring "Arnold Schwarzenegger" as that Ex-Commando drawn back into action wearing the Seiko H558 Arnie.
In a brief glimps of the Commando Film, we see a close-up wrist shot of Arnold which is supposedly the Seiko H558 Diver to the general public, but is known to collectors familar with this watch to be merely a (Mocked-up) model of the real H558 made for the "high visibility for TV viewing" showing a set of double dial chronograph registers and large LCD read-out panel which is supposed to depict the Seiko H558 Diver, but clearly to the trained eye it isn't at all how the real H558 dial appears. (It's Funny how Hollywood thought they needed an exploded eye-candy dial shot which featured a working count-down digital panel)

Below is a large pixel exploded film-clip view of that very H558-Arnie Hybrid eye-candy wrist shot, where he (John Matrix) is setting the countdown timer to time the hours & minutes left to "find & rescue" his daughter (Jenny) from the bad guys (Bennett & Cohorts)...Then as we know, all heck breaks loose!



"Welcome back John, So glad you could make it!"


Hope you enjoyed this post- :thumbup1:

Cheers & Hasta La Vista-
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Thanks for that post Jim. It was good read. The Seiko Divers faced contenders like G-Shock in the military these days but their Vietnam war stories are still legendary.
 

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Thanks for that post Jim. It was good read. The Seiko Divers faced contenders like G-Shock in the military these days but their Vietnam war stories are still legendary.
Thanks Bullosa,

Yes I have followed Arnold since he landed here in the USA, and he's what many of us can see in ourselves in the plight for freedom and peace that is hoped for worldwide. He also has some great taste in watches.
Yep I agree mate, the Casio G-shocks are a huge item with the Military, Medical teams and Rescue teams as well as Police and Law Enforcement.

Thanks for your kind reply my brother,
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Thanks for that post Jim. It was good read. The Seiko Divers faced contenders like G-Shock in the military these days but their Vietnam war stories are still legendary.
tell us more about their Vitenam ware stories.

I would particularly like to know more about the 6139 Pogue.
 

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tell us more about their Vitenam ware stories.

I would particularly like to know more about the 6139 Pogue.
Hello byhsu,

I wouldnt be able to tell of any Viet nam stories since I was never there, but my Grandfather served 3 tours of Duty there, and while I have a few stories he told me of, much of it was of his specialty of Radar & Radio intercept intel, and a couple stories of his missions in the bush.

I'm sure there are more than a few guys around these forums that would have much to tell though.

Cheers & I'll be back bennett!

Jimmy
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I guess theres not alot of Arnie lovers here & thats okay fellas!

No worries at all guys, I know the Arnies are a aquired taste & not everyones cup of tea, so the lower amount of replies atleast told me that Arnie needs to take a break.

lol,
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Hey there Poywatch, it's good to see you

yes I was rideing the white horse for quite some time & surely needed to give the poor thing a rest :lol:, so now it's time to saddle up and ride those wild ponies!

Hey, it's good to see you and always enjoy the fellowship my brother, ;)

Thanks, :thumbup1:
Jim
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Hi Po. Good post. Nice to see you back in the saddle.
 

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Hey there, I thought this was an interesting post, and I do like Arnie. I think the subject of different celebs and the watches they wear while performing in movies is quite fun. There was a great article in this months Watchtime of the diving watch worn by Richard Dryefuss in "Jaws." Isn't Arnie a big Audemars Piquet fan? Also, I think Sly Stallone is a big Panerai proponent.
 

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Great post, I use to have one of those watches, lost it at the beach, this makes me want to find another one:001_smile:
 

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Hey there, I thought this was an interesting post, and I do like Arnie. I think the subject of different celebs and the watches they wear while performing in movies is quite fun. There was a great article in this months Watchtime of the diving watch worn by Richard Dryefuss in "Jaws." Isn't Arnie a big Audemars Piquet fan? Also, I think Sly Stallone is a big Panerai proponent.
Thank You AAflyboy,

appreciate your reply & yes I too get a kick out of watches & movies, it's always interesting to now watch older films and find ones self looking at the watches we see & trying to figure out just what it is on the actors wrist.

Yes, I read alittle bit of the article by the two brothers over on the WUS divewatch forum a few weeks ago, and saw that the article "The Jaws watch revealed" was the (Alsta Nautoscaph).
I read a few replies there (DW Forum) that a few didn't seem to think the watch was anything special for what it is mechanically or for the significance of it and what it may mean to so many even though they dont realize it.
But I would beg to differ with them, that this watch is not meaningless at all but rather very meaningful to the whole Horological society & fora in reality sake.

Yes, I think that watch no matter what brand it was has much to do with many collectors and lovers of watches today!

Why one may ask?
I truely think that Film showing a (dive watch) that looked rugged and tough especially in this most revered film which most all people have seen was one of the most important factors psychologically to have ushered in a Horological boom of interest in watches whether we know it or not, it's in our Horlogical DNA of WISdom IMO, and is what led many of us all into watches today even how strongly or subcontously we may think about it.

Of course this also could be said of other prior and post films for many which are cummulative, but I believe the fact remains that watches in movies or film have a profound cause & effect on this Hobby for us all, for what ever brand or type of watches we adore and admire.

Many thanks for your reply, and I'm glad this post sparked alittle interest in various ways which does leed to watch-talk on many topics.

Jimmy
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Great post, I use to have one of those watches, lost it at the beach, this makes me want to find another one:001_smile:
Hi Alex,

Hey thanks buddy and I appreciate your reply.

Hey keep an eye out, the Arnies do pop up from time to time in Black dialed standard examples as shown above and like you originally owned, but also came in Orange dialed versions.

Cheers & Good luck,
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How do I get parts; tried authorized Seiko dealers and they are no help, thank you.

Hello again guys & fellow Arnie admirers & collectors,
it's good to be back with a close-up short study of the watch that Arnold wore in his Military drama action-packed film Commando.



As some of you brothers from (Military Services) will naturally know & for the other forum members reading this post, A Commando group is:
"An Expert team of amphibious military units & individuals trained for raids into enemy territory which include search & destroy missions & various covert ops, and are taken from the various special teams within that specific branch of Military force to form that elite team."

The wristwatch is an intergral part of a Special forces or other Special-Ops team uniform, with the Divers Wristwatch being the hallmark of Wristwatch choices worldwide for service in active Military Duty.

The "Seiko Divers" wristwatch has quite possibly had the largest following with service on many Military servicemans wrist's since the 1960's most notably with the Vietnam war & the useage of the 6105-8XXX models and Bellmatics and chronographs, right up to currently today serving in Iraq & Afghanistan with distinction.
Suffice to say, many vintage Seiko Diver 6105 & 6306/6309's and H558/H601's as well as Tuna's are still being proudly worn today by Military personnel on duty around the globe.

When Seiko unveiled the H558-500X series of Analog/Digital sport diver watches in the early 1980's, they became an instant hit with many of the USA's, European and International Military forces around the world.
Many elite US special ops teams wore these models entirely as an self-issued Personal & Duty watch, that held the much needed & desired Military used distinctive features most notably used dual 12/24 hour time modes with Countdown features & alarm with backlite display with hacking feature. (Shown below is my NOS H558-5009)



~With the action packed films of Commando & others such as Raw Deal, the H558-500X sport diver watches have attracted a huge following in the watch Collectors community as well as all others.
No where is that feeling of hard core WISdom of the attachment to Military & heroism seen more, than in the 1985 Film (Commando) starring "Arnold Schwarzenegger" as that Ex-Commando drawn back into action wearing the Seiko H558 Arnie.
In a brief glimps of the Commando Film, we see a close-up wrist shot of Arnold which is supposedly the Seiko H558 Diver to the general public, but is known to collectors familar with this watch to be merely a (Mocked-up) model of the real H558 made for the "high visibility for TV viewing" showing a set of double dial chronograph registers and large LCD read-out panel which is supposed to depict the Seiko H558 Diver, but clearly to the trained eye it isn't at all how the real H558 dial appears. (It's Funny how Hollywood thought they needed an exploded eye-candy dial shot which featured a working count-down digital panel)

Below is a large pixel exploded filmclip view of that very H558-Arnie Hybrid eye-candy wrist shot, where he (John Matrix) is setting the countdown timer to time the hours & minutes left to "find & rescue" his daughter (Jenny) from the bad guys (Bennett & Cohorts)...Then as we know, all heck breaks loose!



"Welcome back John, So glad you could make it!"


Hope you enjoyed this post- :thumbup1:
Cheers,
Jimmy
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Why so sad mrod? ...check the post again and you'll see it's been fixed...

lol, I saw that a couple Photobucket links ended up broken, and I saw your reply in sadness with 2 photo's not showing up...

Check it out again & you'll see I fixed this thread for your enjoyment-

Cheers, :thumbup1:
Jim


 
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