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: Reviews of Hamilton Watches

04-13-2008, 09:00 AM

Please place your Hamilton watch reviews in this thread. New or vintage? Pocket or wrist? As long as it is a Hamilton, this the place for your review.

04-13-2008, 11:43 AM
This 38 mm Khaki automatic is Swiss made, has a sapphire crystal, on a rubber strap.

With an ETA quartz movement, it keeps great time, is very light on the wrist, and has very good lume. The red numbers are a great color combo on the black dial and contrast nicely with the white numbers. The white numbers glow so brightly that you can actually see the neighboring red letters, even though the reds are not treated with lume.

The thin case is not ultra-slim but thin enough to be very comfortable on the wrist. For a 38 mm case, it wears larger on the wrist IMHO.

I love the bead-blasted finish on many of the Khaki models. It looks as if it is a titanium rather than stainless steel case.

In keeping with the style of Hamilton Khaki military style watches, the case size is 38 mm. I wish this model was available in a 40 mm case with mechanical movement as well.

04-13-2008, 03:49 PM
I fell in love with the Ventura years ago. When I was finally ready to purchase one I had a difficult decision to make. Do I buy an original vintage one or a new reissue model? Real gold with a 50+ year movement that had it's share of trouble or a brand new SS model with a modern quartz movement and a sapphire crystal? Well, I decided I wanted to wear it and not look at it in a box for the rest of my life.

I went with the chronograph version for two reasons. At the time Hamilton was making these, it was the only model with a sapphire crystal. Next was the chronograph and the cool factor of it being in Men In Black II.

As you can see, it's a decent size watch made very well. It fits nice on the wrist.

I replaced the bracelet with a third party model that copies the original Ventura bracelet design. It originally came with a black leather strap, nice quality, but it was boring. I guess the chrono is busy looking enough without an alligator strap to take away from the dial. I absolutely love my new strap which I bought on the bay. It completes Richard Arbib's design and turns the Ventura into the classy watch it was meant to be. This watch is screaming to be worn with a tuxedo. It looks like it was designed with a tuxedo in mind.

The case is stainless steel, a curved sapphire crystal and the strap came with a deployant clasp. The pushers work easy enough, it has a date feature on it with three silver subdials and the classic round indices that made it famous. The lugs are quite sharp so be careful playing with the kids with this on.

The dial is nicely done. It's not too busy and has an inside track running through the subdials with silver hands. My only complaint about the watch is that the crystal could have used some anti-reflective coating on the inside. It really gets hard to read in certain lighting and is probably the worst feature on the watch.

The back of the watch has the Hamilton coat of arms which makes it really nice. I'm not a fan of the new "H" on the backs. Yes, it gives it a modern look, but it'd be nice if they kept it for the American Classic and Khaki series.

All in all I made the right decision. I want to get a yellow gold version since I think it's still the most beautiful combination for the Ventura. Here's a photo of it next to my Boulton (on a SS bracelet) for a size comparison. It's the large version of the Boulton.

The Hamilton Ventura Chronograph is a great modern alternative to a vintage model and a great looking piece next to the anniversary and regular editions. I'll give it "FOUR AND A HALF WINDS" out of FIVE WINDS.
It makes me smile every time I wear it and you'll smile too. :thumbup:

04-13-2008, 07:22 PM
X-Wind Limited Edition - Rose Gold - H776960

Background: A limited edition of 2000 pieces that was released at Basel 2007. Packaged in a beautiful wooden box with a small Hamilton plane.

Movement: 25 Jewel, Valjoux 7750, turned 180 degrees. 12 Hour-Chronograph with Day and Date. Pros: Amazing movement! Very precise
(+2 seconds/day), and shock resistant. Cons: For a limited edition, it could have been a decorated movement.

Dial: Beautiful black dial with bronze Arabic numerals and calculator for Cross Wind. Running sub-seconds at 3, chronograph hour counter at 12 and chronograph minute counter at 6. Pros: The numerals match perfectly with the rest of the watch.

Case: A 44mm Pink Gold Plated - 10 Microns - 100M water-resistant case. The time/date setting crown is on the left side with the Chronograph pushers. The two Cross Wind calculator crowns are on the right side.

Case-Back: The 4 screws case-back is half open with a sapphire crystal and a degree ruler for Cross Wind. Engraved on the case back: "GOLD PLATED 10 MICRONS 0000/2000 - ST.STEEL SAPPHIRE CRYSTAL - WATER RESISTANT 100M - SWISS MADE - H776960"

Crystal: Sapphire Crystal. Pros: Almost impossible to scratch. Cons: No anti-reflective coating.

Crown: Regular Hamilton screw-down polished crowns.

Strap: A Germany Handcrafted Genuine Leather strap model H600776124.

Overall Rating: 8.5/10 - Stunning watch. Amazing price/quality. Lost points for not having a decorated movement and also not having an anti-reflective coating on the crystal.

04-13-2008, 08:39 PM
Hamilton Tachymiler..

Designed to fulfill the toughest demands of sport and acrobatic pilots in the cockpit.The Khaki Tachymiler has the facility to record intermediate time - vital to racing pilots. The chronograph has color-coded pushers on its left-hand side in red and black, plus a silver crown, to enable activation even when traveling at speed. An easy to read display completes the 'control panel' look that celebrates its long American aviation heritage by integrating miles as the unit of measurement for distance.

A very soft rubber strap that utilizes the traditional "H" buckle. The strap itself continues past the push pins, becomes thicker, and hugs the case thus having the same effect as a fixed end link on a bracelet. The design or "tread" on the rubber strap is designed to resemble the tread on an airplane tire.

The result is a snug and comfortable fit for a large watch. The strap is also signed on the inside with Hamilton spelled out on one side and Khaki on the other. These raised letters keep the watch from slipping when it gets wet.

This is one of the only signed cases that I know of hamilton making.

A Valjoux 7750 powers the Tachymiler with the pushers at the 8 and 10 position and the crown at 9. The pusher location is very comfortable for the case is 44m (49m including crown) and it doesn't dig in the back of your hand....

The case back is quite different for it has a separated yin yang effect with the openings. It is screwed on by four screws. The rotor is signed but no further movement decoration is visible.

The case is carved around the pushers in a multilevel fashion. it is carved on the opposite side as well with the signature running through it. This is one of the most complex case designs that I have seen from Hamilton.

The dial is very unique. Multilevel with overlapping subdials. The broad sword hands are skeletonized and lumed at the tip. The second hand is broad sword skeletonized and solid red. The chrono second hand is very cool! Black with a skeletonized red box at the pointer end and a checkerboard effect on the opposite end to give it some racing flair! The 6 o'clock dial is a chrono minute. The besel is a black tachymiler with white print...Overall the dial is easy to read.

100m WR, 22m lugs, sapphire crystal and screw down crown....this watch is a super sports watch and comes off a little different than the standard aviation watch. The black, white, silver and splashes of red will catch your eye! On a rubber strap, this watch weighs in at 145 grams rides stady on the wrist...If I have a wish list for it, it would be to lume it better....The lume is only at the tips of the hour and minute hands. I give it a 9 out of 10.

04-14-2008, 06:49 PM

The Clinton was introduced in 1949. It was an updated version of the military watch Hamilton produced during the war years. The 747 movement, introduced two years earlier, was used in this watch. The Clinton was one of the first Hamiltons to be made with a stainless steel case. The applied numbers on this one are also of stainless steel.

Two things stand out when you first look at this watch, its small size and the unique lugs. The size was fairly typical for the time period. The lugs set it apart from other watches.

It did not take long to get used to the smaller size of this watch. The period style strap (nearly identical to the ilustration in Rene Rondeaus book) adds to its vintage look. The dial is clean and easy to read.

I am cautious about overwinding my mechanical watches. I feel resistance on this one after about 8-9 turns. So far a single wind has lasted me 10 to 12+ hours. The watch was serviced before I bought it. I don't know if the mechanism will wind more freely with use. If I notice any significant changes I will post an update.

04-15-2008, 05:44 PM
When the Hamilton Forum began 3 1/2 months ago I decided to add another Hamilton to my collection.
Since I already had 3 watches from the Khaki collection I decided to look for an automatic from the American Classics Collection.
I decided on the Brooke XL and couldn't be happier.

It is probably one of the more unique designs among all the "re-introductions"
of various Hamilton classics.

It creates almost an optical illusion as the case is smaller in diameter at the top(27mm) than at the bottom(35mm) yet the depth is greater at the top (12mm)and less at its widest point.(7mm)

The 2 vertical silver stripes on the dial are well complimented by the 2 horizontal stripes on the cas on the crown side.

The lugs at the top (8mm)are smaller than the bottom lugs (11mm) creating another interesting design aspect. (although it may be rough finding a replacement strap from anyone other than Hamilton)

The strap is a very nice quality leather with a double deployant,signed ,clasp.

The watch has a distinctive look reminiscient of the cars designs of the 50's and 60's which is further accentuated by the winged framing of the date window.

The watch is powered by the tried and true ETA 2824 and proudly displays this fact through an exhibition screw down case back.

It is keeping a rate of +8 secs a day which is perfectly acceptable for a non COSC movement.

All in all a great and interesting Swiss Made timepiece which doesn't even come close to duplicating anything in my collection.

----Obscure Reference----

I wouldn't be surprised if Barry Allen wore this watch

04-19-2008, 02:55 PM
Rusty asked me if I would review a vintage Hamilton, so here's one of my all-time favorite classics, the Altair.

It was introduced in 1961 at $110 with leather strap or $125 with a stunning mesh metal band. The band could be shortened by removing the endpiece and cutting the mesh, but once cut there was no way to lengthen it.

The asymmetric case styling is generally considered to be the most extreme design Hamilton ever attempted, even beyond Hamilton's other unique cases in the 1950s and 1960s. It was perhaps a bit too much for most people -- only 1,600 were sold, making this one of the scarcest as well as most desirable vintage Hamiltons.

Two types of hands were used, dauphine and straight baton. Both are listed on the original spec sheet but no explanation was given for the change. Most of the ones I've seen have straight baton hands.

The dial is two-tone brushed silver, with the center portion brushed in a radial pattern and the perimeter brushed in a straight line toward 1 o'clock. These alternate between light and dark grey as the dial is shifted in the light, giving it a really exciting appearance.

The movement was the Hamilton 505 electric, much improved over the earlier 500 and 500A. However, Hamilton did not use transistor switching (during development, they feared that transistors would be too expensive and/or not available in sufficient quantities) so the contacts that make and break the circuit press against each other physically, 5 times a second. Over a period of 2-3 years this causes the soft gold contact on the balance wheel to wear out. At the time this was not considered a problem since customers were already in the habit of having their watches overhauled every year or two anyway. During routine servicing the watchmaker would simply replace the entire balance assembly with a new one, and send the old one back to Hamilton to be rebuilt and resold. That is no longer an option today.

The crown is somewhat egg-shaped, with a tapered section on the bottom that nestles into the case opening. This style crown is unique to the Altair and was not used on any other watch. Like all Hamilton Electric crown, it is very small. This was meant to make a visual statement that the watch was unusual, since it's obviously too small to be used for winding.

For all its visual clout, the Altair had a serious design flaw -- the lugs were very weak. Both upper and lower lugs are extremely thin and are attached with a narrow section soldered to the body of the watch. Flexing the wrist puts pressure on the lugs and can easily bend them. The watch shown here is near-mint; most have 'wavy' lugs from having been bent and reshaped many times, and it's very common to see evidence of solder repairs. Altairs with excellent, undamaged lugs are very rare indeed.

The case manufacturer also failed to provide for a convenient way to open the case. There is no 'lip' as on most two-piece cases. The only way to open the watch is to slip a knife into the seam on the side. It's extremely common to find these with horrible gouges from careless case opening.

Hamilton never made a ladies' electric watch, but they did use the unique styling of the Altair to make a companion "Style-Mate" watch with a mechanical movement -- the Vesta. Today this is even rarer than the Altair.

The Altair is particularly special to me because this watch literally changed my life... I was already collecting watches long before I bought my first Hamilton Electric (a Pacer), but when I saw a picture of an Altair I became obsessed. Not only did I urgently have to find one for myself, I also needed to learn everything I could about these amazing pieces. There was virtually no information to be had -- in fact, no existing books listed the Altair, or for that matter most other electrics -- so I started researching the story myself. Then I had problems finding anyone to repair my electrics so I had to learn to do it myself. A few years later I quit my job and became a full-time Hamilton specialist. The Altair was what tipped me over the edge, and I will forever be grateful!

04-20-2008, 05:51 PM

Crystal Material: Scratch-Resistant Sapphire Crystal
Clasp: Double push button divers clasp
Case Diameter: 43 millimeters
Case Thickness: 18 millimeters
Case Material: Titanium Case
Strap Material: Titanium
Dial Color: Black Dial, Luminous Hands and Arabic Numerals
Movement: Valjoux 7750
Calendar: Magnified Date
Water Resistance Depth: 200 meters

Never was attracted to this watch until I saw it in person and tried it on..It rides high on the wrist and has a beefy look to it. Sized to a 7 1/2 wrist it weighs in at a very manageable 165 grams and does not slide all around the wrist.

The case back has an exhibition quality to it enhanced by a porthole look adds to the nautical theme. Allows for a view of the decorated rotor of the Valjoux 7750. It is screwed to the case wit 8 screws.

The pushers on the case are covered by "H" signed canteen type screwed on caps that are connected to the case by a double hinged piece of titanium. The pushers, as you can see by the picture, are cut in half...Black half = start & stop the = resets chronograph. A little hard to use if you have large fingers but you get the hang of it after a while. The crown, also covered by a canteen cap is on the smallish side but is not difficult to use.

On the sapphire crystal are two magnifiers...The large one magnifies the chrono minutes (30 min), the small magnifier magnifies the date. The two magnifiers do interfere with the hands..10:04 o'clock is virtually impossible to see.

The other 1/2 subdial is a 12hr chrono hour timer, the subdial rotates the red pointer is stationary.

The dial is one of Hamilton's better lumed pieces.

The bracelet has a dual push button signed divers clasp with only two holes for adjustment. The fixed end links melt very nicely into the case and blend into the titanium bezel.

Overall this watch has exceeded my expectations..I would rate it an 8 out of 10.I think the only drawbacks are that the two magnifiers interfere with the time (2 hrs per day), there are only 2 micro-adjust holes in the clasp and there is no second hand (unless you start the chrono of course).

If you want a great sport watch with some wrist presence, this Valjoux 7750 powered Hamilton Frogman is one worth considering.

Tom Barry
04-21-2008, 12:12 PM

This Hamilton Automatic Chronograph model in 38mm size case has now, I believe, been discontinued. I got it in March at a closeout price at a discount AD for just over $400 including tax. I consider it a bargain, as it contains the Valjoux 7750 chronograph movement, a fine piece of timekeeping machinery. Even though I have a preference for quartz chronographs simply because they can be thinner, I thought this was such a good buy that I would try it and sell it if it didn't ultimately feel comfortable. As it turns out, I like it well, and am keeping it in the collection.

The watch comes in the usual sober Hamilton packaging, with a welcome large size of instruction manual and warranty booklets. The interior box is plastic but looks like aluminum.The cushion for the watch and the surrounding area are in a leather-like material, all stark black.

Hamilton has similar pieces in the current collection, including a 38mm in the Khaki Field subgroup, but the others are larger. And, speaking of similar, the watch face and the hands in particular, bear a strong resemblance to a number of traditional pilots' (or Flieger) chronographs by several manufacturers. It's a quite classic look that I find pleasing, however derivative it may be. Interesting to me is that nowhere on the watch does the word "khaki" appear, though it was described as such on the sales slip.

Since I bought the chrono, it has been an excellent time-keeper, running at a consistent +2 sec. per day, whether on the wrist or in the watch box or just parked on the night stand. That speaks well of the precision of the 7750. The watch has an exhibition back showing a cleanly-finished, though by no means highly decorated, movement. I have yet to experience the famous "vibration" of the 7750's ball-bearing rotor spinning. I can set it to spinning while holding the watch in my hand, and then feel the vibration.

I like the size of the case. The necessary depth of the mechanical chronograph movement means the watch is thick - more than 15mm by my measurement. But because it is not a large-diameter case, the bulge at the back sits nicely between the wrist bones when the austere black leather strap is cinched down snugly. It is comfortable, except on warm, muggy days, when I wear only braceleted watches or a pocket watch.

The bezel is polished bright, but most of the rest of the stainless case carries a more subdued finish. Everything is cleanly done. While a deployment strap looks great, and I have some watches with them, I have always found a plain buckle strap easier to adjust and somewhat more comfortable to wear. So I have no complaints there. The buckle itself is of course signed with the Hamilton name.

The chronograph functions positively, with the traditional round pushers giving a moderate amount of resistance with a precise "click" to start, stop and reset the timer. There is a tachymeter scale (in meters) around the edge of the dial to measure average speed of a vehicle. Some similar Hamilton models use a telemeter scale to measure distance rather than speed (For example, the generic instruction manual notes that a three-second lapse between a flash of lightning and the sound reaching the ear means the storm is 1 kilometer distant).

Because of the strong contrast between the non-reflective black dial and the white numbers, hands and indices, legibility is better than one expects from a traditionally-sized dial/case - I can (with bifocals) discern even the smaller indicators and can easily make out the time even with only my distance vision (at arm's length and squinting). The crystal at first appears flat, but it has a slight domed shape, which makes it difficult to photograph without reflections, particularly outdoors.

As you can see from the photos, the luminescence is good, but my Citizen Eco-Drive watches have "lume" paint that stays bright longer. The watch has a claimed water resistance of 10ATM.

In all, I am quite happy with my purchase. Those who like larger cases will find them available from Hamilton in a similar configuration.

04-21-2008, 07:49 PM
The Aviation style Hamilton's Khaki QNE watch features a 316 fine brushed 44mm case stainless steel construction on a sapphire crystal, the Champagne/Antique Ivory dial (in my piece)is featuring a pressure-altitude measurement scale (mmHg/hPa pressure scale)for those of you into reading very small numbers and in need to calculate your altitude say… at lunch time, for the rest of us, is always a conversation piece … a date window completes the dial... one of my few complaints if any …lume is poor . The split window exhibition case back features a Zulu aviation alphabet reference list… Lug size is a healthy 22mm and the piece is rated 100meters water resistant with a signed, non screwing down crown . The movement is a modified ETA 2892-2 with 6 extra jewels 27 total ( ETA 2895-2 )for the separate small second hand sub-dial complication locate at 6 on the main dial, reminiscent of those old airplane gauges…. no fine finish applied to the movement (not expected either in this price range) other than the Hamilton name across the rotor… I purchase the watch around December/07 from THE network channel (technically gray market?) for slightly above $400 usd. Very easy to wear, the piece fits very comfortably on my 71/4 wrist, my watch was originally fitted with a very good quality aviation style strap with the traditional "H" buckle but, quickly changed for an exotic tan Alligator. (
So far accuracy has been just outstanding, the piece gains two (2) seconds per 24 hours period as per my reference atomic clock (Colorado, USA) that for a watch not rated as a certified chronometer…overall fit/finish is just superb in this price range, making this watch an excellent choice and a real bargain considering the craftsmanship ... (
Hamilton, the house founded in 1892 in Lancaster PA is no longer American made yet, the Swatch Group has managed to play the American Heritage marketing game well, making this marquee appealing and trendy yet one more time … and growing

04-25-2008, 10:52 AM

This is the 42mm case with an ETA 2824-2 25 jewel automatic movement. There are sapphire crystals both front and back.

This dial color is pleasant to view and the lume is excellent but the sweep hand does not light up. In true Khaki military tradition, the numbers accomodate a 12 or 24 time read.

The outer bezel is polished but the other finishes are softly brushed including the bracelet, which has a diver's extension.

I am not certain if the watch is Swiss made since the only mention of SWISS is on the rotor of the movement. I think it may be assembled in the Far East.

It is 50 meters water resistant. The 2007/08 model in this size case comes with 100 meters resistant and only with a black dial.

It is a nice size and wears comfortably on the wrist. Because of some of the polish work, it is both sporty and a bit dressy as well and can be worn comfortably with a sport coat.

It is a classic that will never go out of style.

04-29-2008, 01:30 AM
Khaki Action Automatic (sorry for the dusty pictures)

Movement: ETA Cal. 2824-2 25 jewels Swiss Automatic.
Functions: Date calendar, window display.
Case: Satin finish solid 316L Stainless steel.
Bezel: Uni-Directional rotating, ratcheted, 0-60 Elapsed-Time.
Crown: Sport style, screw-down (threaded). Wind crown protector.
Crystal: Sapphire. Very slight dome profile.
Dial: Black color. Applied polished Silver color markers.
Hands: Steel color. Luminous filled.
Case Back: Observation crystal. Screw-on style ( held by screws ).
Band: Satin finish. Solid 316L stainless steel. Rubber integrated. Oyster style links.
Clasp: Tri-fold, Sport style, with spring release. Factory Logo engraved/embossed.
Water Resistance: 200m/660ft/20atm.
Case Size: 40.00mm. 12.50mm. 46mm across with crown.

Dial - Great looking dial in matte black with silver numbers..6,9 and 12 are large and play very nice with the over sized numbers on the gear cog styled bezel. The crown is gear cog styled to carry the look forward as well.

Fit and Finish - The watch is extremely tight and well done. The crown guard looks a little fragile but in fact is very sturdy. The crown is on the large side and very easy to deal with. The case is very interesting. For being 40m it has a lug spread of 22m. This gives the illusion that the case is a rectangle and makes the watch wear larger.

Crystal - The sapphire crystal is slightly domed and gives the watch an extra dimension to its look.

Case Back - The case back is windowed and a decorated rotor shows off the ETA 2824-2.

Bracelet - The bracelet is 316L SS with rubber integrated center links. traditional push button signed divers clasp.

Summary - The watch weighs in at 153 grams and is a pleasure to wear. The crown guard, in my opinion, is what sets this watch off. You don't see many designs like this. The dial is easy to read..I rate the lume a 7 out of 10. The watch is comfortable, accurate and can be worn while doing the chores on Saturday and have enough left to go out on the town Saturday night..Overall I give this watch an 8 out of 10.

05-03-2008, 11:15 PM
Hamilton 50th Anniversary Ventura Limited Edition(Yellow Gold)

Sapphire Crystal
Quartz Movement
Water Resistance:50
Width 37mm
Thickness 7mm
Weight 40g

The world is limited to 1,000 pieces of this special watch. The "dot" that represents the 10 (or in this case the 50 minute mark) on the dial is replaced by a diamond chip that represents this model being 50 years old.

The case back is etched beautifully with the Hamilton Logo and the watch number (274 of 1000) for the Limited Edition.

the crown is signed with an "H".

The case has some thickness and the plating is perfect. The dial is a very dark bronze color with gold tone hands and indices. It has the classic electric bolt running through through middle of the dial.

The strap is a brown croc grained leather strap with a buckle...I added a gold deployant.

The movement is quartz which fits the theme of the first electric watch..This watch is very fun to wear and can be dressed up or sported out....Put on that Nat Nast shirt and go listen to some Chuck Berry or Jerry Lee (The Killer) Lewis! You'll feel 50 years younger:thumbup1:

05-06-2008, 06:15 AM
Since this a thread for Hamilton PR i will post my review here.

As my first automatic i have the Hamilton Jazzmaster Power Reserve for about a week.
It is the white dial on crocodile brown leather strap model.
The dial is quit nice with the round guilloche effect and the power reserve indicator. The glass is sapphire back and front. It is a pretty decent size, the diameter is 40 mm (43 mm with the crown). Lugs distance is 20 cm. I like the strap, it's really a quality strap with the butterfly clasp with push button.

The movement is ETA-2897. Accuracy (after first day) is -2 sec/day which is preety good. Regarding the power reserve, i go to sleep with the indicator showing full and in the morning is at about 75-80%. After i wore it for about 2 hours it goes over the top.

The only bothering things i noticed so far is the somehow low contract between the light silvery dial and the darker silver hands and markers. This make the reading of the watch little tricky in some conditions, but nothing too upseting. The other small bothering thing is the low effect of the fluorescent material on the hands and markers. In the dark are not so evident.

All in all is a quality and i am very happy with the purchase.
And in the end, some pics.

05-27-2008, 01:37 AM
Actually this is has a swiss quartz movement. It is highly accurate and is one of the most comfortable watches you can wear. The 38mm size is perfect. The dial is probably the most readable I have ever seen. I put it on a black leather strap with black stitching since it has a black bezel.

06-01-2008, 09:17 PM
Hi all I thought I would review my one and only Hamilton; the Khaki Multi-Touch. This isn't the most popular watch around here but a very cool one none the less. The Multi-Touch is the sister to the Tissot T-Touch. There have been many documented problems with early T-Touch watches but I decided to take the leap.
Case: 42 mm diameter (45 mm w/crown)
Tactile sapphire crystal
30 m water resistance
E40.305 Quartz movement
End of Life Indicator
Some pictures

My watch is has a gold/beige dial with an olive green silicone strap with a normal tang buckle (thinking of changing to a deployment clasp). The dial itself is relatively small because of the thick bezel that has all the functions inscribed on it. I have had the watch for about 2 weeks and I am really enjoying it. To activate the touch crystal you press in the crown until it beeps then press in any one the 6 function areas then press in the middle to go back to normal timekeeping more. This watch is all about the tech functions. The ABC functions are very neat and quite useful on hikes and just to impress friends. The altimeter is based on barometric pressure so it needs to be recalibrated as ofter as possible to stay accurate (I just found the elevation at my home online and recalibrate when here). The barometer measures true pressure and thus is 20-25 hPa lower than the weather channel because they adjust for the elevation where it is measured. It can track changes in the pressure for a couple hours and tells you the trend to help all the amateur meteorologists out there. The compass can be calibrated to point to true north rather than magnetic north (again information available online). All of these things are useful when out especially using the altimeter to gauge how far you climbed on a bike ride or hike. The watch's thermometer is not very useful; to be accurate it must be of the arm for 10-15 minutes and in real outdoors situations that isn't possible. Like all Khakis you can read 24 hour time from the watch (can't get a great close up with my camera but the numbers are there). The lume on the hands is bright. The alarm is loud enough. The chrono does lap time but doesn't store any. The digital display can show the time or the date but I wish it would have the day as well. There is no backlight to the digital display so it probably isn't the best camping watch.
As for the problems apparently T-Touch and Multi-Touch watches are allergic to humid conditions like the bathroom when the shower is running, or steam rooms etc. The watch is rated for 30 m which for most techy watch guys is not nearly enough. I have yet to experience any problems first hand but I will keep you updated.
To conclude a very solid product that can be had on the gray market or second hand for a very reasonable price. If you do day hiking or want a watch that will always get a wow when you demo it this is a good choice. However, those with Casio or Suunto ABC watches this probably won't replace them for backpacking/camping use. I like the watch and have found myself ignoring the rest of my collection since I received it.

06-18-2008, 08:20 AM
STRAP dark brown leather
REF. STRAP # H600.304.101 //

The Trent is part of the Hamilton Vintage Collection. The original design was from the 1950’s. The current version is offered in automatic, quartz and quartz chronograph models. The automatic version is powered by an ETA 2824-2. My watch has a black dial and brown leather band. The dial is clean and simple. Hour markers surround a railroad style seconds track. A date window is located at 6 o’clock.

The case size (37x33mm) is a refreshing change of pace from the 43-46mm range without being small. The square case and the lugs give it the impression of being a little larger. The lugs also enhance the appearance of the rectangular design.

The watch is comfortable on my wrist. The deployment buckle is well executed and enhanced with design cut-outs.

The brown leather strap with white stitching goes well with the black dial. The lug width is advertised as 19mm. However, the lugs are notched inside and the band is actually a little wider.

Overall design, fit and finish deserve high marks.

06-28-2008, 10:27 AM
After 48 hours with my new (old) Hamilton Sutton vintage, I am very impressed.

I have wound the watch three times and as of the third wind, the 70 year old movement is only a few seconds fast. Amazing.

The watch has what looks like a new crystal and I believe the previous owner had it polished. It has a 14k gold-plated finish and outside of 70 years of use, it is in beautiful condition.

I love the tubular lugs that run up both sides of the case. And the dial shows just enough aging to make it interesting to view. The sub-dial for the seconds hand really makes it a vintage look.

Size-wise, it is smaller than anticipated and very light on the wrist. The case is curved but after wearing modern day watches, the lack of heft and size takes some getting used to. The watch came with a new black leather strap that is nothing special but certainly fits the vintage of the watch.

12-10-2008, 03:40 PM
That's a beautiful watch, Rusty.

02-26-2009, 09:56 PM

i just had to comment on this as that is my all time favorite book! Hemingway at his finest, in my opinion. :001_smile:

now... back to watches, haha.

Arthur Kramer
10-27-2009, 05:49 PM
The first time I saw a Hamilton Khaki it remined me of my beloved A-11 hack watch issued to me in 1943. I figured it was just a poor copy of an A-11, a watch that many owe their lives to.

Art Kramer
WW II Bombardier

11-08-2009, 06:42 AM
Confessions of a rebellious WIS - A review of the Hamilton Khaki Field Automatic
(borrowed pic)


I’ve always had a fascination with watches, though it’s only within the past few years that the disease has caught hold with any serious consequences to my wallet. During that time I’ve posted regularly on several general watch fora, learned much and naturally spent much more than I ever intended. My preference is for automatics, though I have had the gamut from cheap Casio digitals (most ‘bang for buck’ ever?) to G-Shocks to classic Seiko divers to a Rolex Submariner ND bought as a wedding present too long ago to contemplate and which I gave away to my brother after my divorce (!) In those days, it was ‘just a watch’ that ticked away (without a service) as my only watch for about 15 years and I became sick of the sight of it. Anyway, I thought I’d make my introductory post a semi-review and hope I don’t bore the pants off everyone….

The Big Questions

I used to think that since there’s so much variety available today, the weird and whacky world of watches would hold my fascination for a long time. And it has done, ever since I was old enough to get my gooey fingers round my father’s old Omega (which I was gratified to learn, did not contribute to his early demise). However, during a recent archaeological dig through my watch box I wasn’t surprised to find so many mummified corpses. It seems that in the past few years I’ve accumulated rather more watches than I thought. According to the general symptoms of this madness, where prices paid for a watch grow steadily from a few pounds to thinking about having to sell sundry body parts, and hoping the missus doesn’t notice either the missing appendage (doubtful) or the new watch (divorce), the inevitable questions begin to loom large, especially after a few glasses of a favourite alcoholic beverage.

The topic occasionally crops up on watch fora - after owning lots and looking at what must be millions of watches (well, thousands, anyway), I asked myself the questions that most WIS ask themselves after nothing has stirred their loins for months. Where am I going with all this? When am I going to wear this one? or that one? Will I ever wear this one again? Many times I’ve endured the suffering of a disturbing bout of common sense (aka softening of the brain) and had to lay down in a darkened room for an hour, where I hallucinate about selling the whole lot and wearing just one watch till one or the other of us falls to pieces with old age. Now, I have to say that this idea appeals to me, and goes along with the equally appealing idea that a watch with some personal history attached to it becomes more than just a watch. It becomes a part of who you are.

So yes! Why not? Apart from one or two pieces I’d never part with (my Dracula watches - forever entombed in their boxes and only coming out after dark, if ever - sad, but true), why not dump all the quartz tat along with the rest of the wannabees and get one great watch that you’ll wear with pride, I asked myself. Get that one watch and never look back. When you get the urge to buy something else, you can look at your wrist and ask yourself if you really want to consign it to oblivion in favour of something else. The answer will likely be NO! (This scenario does have a curiously spooky parallel with those other creatures of the night - women, but, of course as we all know, the answer would be different. Still, that’s another story for a another forum...)

The Search

If you limit your choices only to what seems possible or reasonable, you disconnect yourself from what you truly want, and all that is left is a compromise - Robert Fritz

The older I get the more I seem to be losing favour with watches that I would have sold my kids for two or three years ago. This time however, I had to have something that’s truly versatile, something rugged but not heavy, uncomplicated but good to look at, not exactly a tool but with just as much cool. Not too much of a tall order, you’d think, but initial nosings around the web and local ADs were disappointing to say the least. Some really nice pieces but nothing jumped off the screen or out of the window, grabbed me by the throat and demanded money with menaces. I wondered if I was getting a little jaded. After gawking at so many watches, everything begins to look curiously the same.

For long term contentment a thing has to resonate with core values and ideals. Many vintage pieces have exactly what I was looking for, mainly bling-free, simple classic designs and smallish cases, which I prefer. Most modern or fashionable things have their own appeal but are often over-hyped, over-complicated, over-designed, over-priced and/or over-size. Oh, that I could go back in time fifty years and press my nose against some jeweller’s window and gaze at all those loverly watches (much as I do now, in fact, but in a different era and with less disappointment).

In the main, vintage watches didn’t draw attention to their owner. They were honest, straightforward and unself-conscious, designed to tell the time with a minimum of fuss. Arguably, the best part of watch buying is the deliberating, pondering and brooding, spending countless hours poring over watch .... (especially as it has the added bonus of giving the brain something constructive to think about in ‘meetings’ at work). It certainly seemed to me that vintage was the way to go. Still, I wasn’t completely sure. Lack of durability and servicing/running costs are the biggest issues – and waiting for the right piece to come along. I’m the kind of guy who has to have things yesterday. I’ve never had the patience to learn to be patient. Besides, there are still a few sensible options for guy like me.

The Bare Necessities (not in any order)

Price not necessarily a consideration, but I don’t want to go crying to my bank manager if the worst should happen. Nor do I want to spend so much that I’m babying the **** thing – hate that.
No bigger than 38mm case
Classic design, preferably with a vintage feel.
Fit, form and function with no BS.
Less is definitely more.
Quality/durability of construction. Fitness for purpose.
If possible, sapphire crystal is the way to go for a worry free life.
Stainless steel case.
At least 50m WR.
Versatile – got to look good with jeans or a suit.
Brand history/heritage a definite plus.

Hamilton - The Definitive Choice

The Khaki Field Automatic, the latest in a long line of military watches from Hamilton (or ‘military style’ if you’re a purist) and shares its roots with those produced during WWII and later, and the British issued 6B, 6BB and GS (General Service, i.e. non-military) watches. (The fact that Hamilton ultimately became a Swatch Group brand is neither here nor there to me.*). The current incarnation is the one that kept drawing me back time and again and fulfilled all of my criteria, including the case dimensions - 38mm excluding the crown. Knowing they’re on to a good thing, Hamilton also make a 42mm version.


Very highly regarded and ubiquitous ETA 2824-2.
Beautifully contoured and flawlessly finished case in brushed satin stainless steel with a plain polished steel bezel (nice touch)
A proper, decent sized, fat, chunky crown - and signed. (I don’t care who makes them - watches with puny crowns should all be consigned to the furnaces of Hades and melted down to make crowns for the Khaki Field).
Numerals are nicely proportioned, neither too big or too small. There is no serif on the ‘1’ and no hook on the ‘7’ giving the dial a cleaner look, in my opinion. I just prefer them this way.
Hands are very much in keeping with the vintage heritage of the Khaki and the pointer for the minute hand reaches into the minute track as it should.
Nicely designed second hand with a good long tail and a dark red tip that adds a very eye-catching spot of colour to an otherwise monochrome dial. Lifts the whole look of the watch.
The numerals and hands are lumed (Superluminova C1?) and in daylight are brilliant white, as opposed to the pale yellow/green of Superluminova C3. Lume is good on the hands, readable well into the night without prior exposure to a bright light source.
Black dial. Not just any black, mind you. Not really dark grey masquerading as black. This one is as black as a black hole, and flawlessly printed, providing an excellent contrast with the pure white numerals, indices and hands.
The date window in the 38mm case is in the correct position relative to the dial. In the larger version of necessity the date window is pulled further towards the centre.
The numerals are printed on a part of the dial etched with very fine grooves (like a gramophone record if you’re old enough to remember them. If not, ask your dad). This diffuses the light and makes the dial easy to read in any position as the uncoated sapphire crystal would normally be too reflective. The grooves are so fine they aren’t always visible, but I think they add a nice contrasting texture to an otherwise plain dial.
Slightly domed sapphire crystal should eliminate scratches. Something less to worry about. Also helps minimise reflections. There has never been a circumstance when I haven’t been able to read the time. The dial is always readable even in bright light which is perpendicular to the dial.
100m WR so no worries about getting it wet.
Highest quality leather used for the strap.

Cons (nit-picking)

Lume on the numerals is not as strong as on the hands
Dial could be considered to be cluttered. Could live without the 24 hour markers and don’t understand why they’re obligatory on military watches these days. Small enough not to be intrusive.
Could live without the display back. Nice ‘Hamilton’ engraved rotor, though
No coating on the sapphire crystal, especially on the underside. Could be argued that there’s none to wear off either, and also alleviated by design factors above
Minute hand lags behind the hour hand by about 2 minutes. I can live with this. Many watches have this fault for some reason (manufacturing processes, no doubt).


The watch I received has Incabloc shock protection, identified by its unique lyre-shaped spring on the balance wheel. According to ETA’s own charts (don’t know how old these are – though they were posted recently on a watch forum but I can’t find them on ETA’s web site), only the Top and Chronometer grades of the 2824-2 have Incabloc whereas the Standard and Elabore grades have ETA’s own Etachocs. They also have different mainsprings and hairsprings – Nivaflex NO + Nivarox 2 for the Standard and Elabore and Nivaflex NM + Anachron for the Top and Chronometer grades. However, I have read reports that Standard 2824’s are also produced with Incabloc, so it’s difficult to know for certain what movement grade Hamilton have used for the Khaki Field. Erring on the side of caution, I suspect it’s Standard.

The reason I’m boring you with all this is that the accuracy would suggest the Top grade. Over the six weeks I’ve owned it the daily rate has been either zero or +1s in 24 hours on the wrist. As I don’t wear a watch in bed, this includes around 8 hours crown up at night (+/-0s). If I leave the watch crown up for 12 hours the movement will lose 0-1s and 1-2s in 24 hours. All other resting positions result in a gain of 1-2s over 8 hours. In other words, with a bit of judicious ‘resting’ this movement can be made to run as accurately as quartz. Of course, it’s still early days and we’ll see how it goes over the coming months. Nevertheless, this is mightily impressive timekeeping for any movement let alone for a watch powered by the ‘Standard’ grade 2824-2.

Note: the above results were after letting the watch settle down for a week during which the mainspring was left to unwind completely from fully wound (ie worn for a continuous 16 hours) a couple of times. I always do this with new autos. I don’t know why. I think I read somewhere that it’s a good idea. It could make no difference at all – it might be just psychological - but it certainly seems to work.

A word or three about the strap...

Not too keen on bracelets. I find the watch slips round my wrist too much. Besides, I’m a leather lover (for watch straps I mean – come on guys) so I ordered the watch with the brown leather strap which comes with a signed, chunky, brushed steel buckle. I have to say that the quality of the leather is perhaps the most gorgeous of all the leather straps I’ve owned – and I have a few… In fact, I felt that the strap was much too nice to be beaten up by daily wear, so I searched around for another, and, idiot that I am, spent a small fortune. Sadly, not one of them added to the overall look and comfort of the watch in the way that the original leather does.

Nubuck lined with remborde construction, the leather is thick and fine grained in a rich, deep brown with shades of mahogany and walnut. It’s no surprise that a replacement original strap is so expensive, but definitely worth the money. I’d have to insist on replacing the strap when the time comes with an identical Hamilton strap. Luckily, I came across a nearly new one on the bay of fleas for just over half retail price and couldn’t get my credit card out quick enough. Happy to report that the spare, which I’m using, is just as good as the original. Much kudos to Hamilton here for the quality of materials and workmanship when it would have been so easy to save a few dollars on the price of the watch with a merely ‘adequate’ strap. Incidentally, the stitching appears white in photos but is actually a natural, neutral ivory colour.


*I’ve heard it said that since becoming part of the Swatch Group, Hamilton have lost the link with their past, that being just another brand falling within certain price limits in a larger conglomerate means a lack of the individual identity it once enjoyed. Looking at the current line-up and the quality thereof (including the American Classics), I don’t think I can agree with this. No doubt the dispute will continue, but my impression is that Hamilton produce watches that are just as good now (if not better), and in a broader range of products, as they ever were. If that isn’t being true to their heritage, I don’t know what is. To my mind, a few of the current pieces are certainly way too blingy, over-designed and underwhelming, but then I’m just an old fart. People no doubt said the same when the iconic Ventura was launched.

It's not so much that your planning is to be the best. Your planning is to make wonderful things. And if you make wonderful things in our society, normally they recognise it. - Nicolas G Hayek (Chairman and Delegate of the Board of Directors of the Swatch Group)

Notwithstanding the sweat and toil that went into the choice of the Hamilton, and the fact that I’m still in the ‘honeymoon’ period, my overall impression is that this watch will take some beating, in both senses of the word. Build quality is outstanding, let down only by the slight hand mis-alignment. Still, the fantastic accuracy and the fact that it looks classy and well made and feels great on my wrist more than compensates. Something to be aware of is that it wears slightly smaller than 38mm (more like 36mm) due to the case thickness and smaller dial width. For me, this is a definite plus. The 42mm version, by the same logic, would wear around 40mm.

The Khaki Field (all versions) is the definitive watch in the Khaki line-up and you mess with the fundamental design too much at your certain peril. However, to my mind, Hamilton have done a brilliant job here, keeping the vintage look but adding a few deft touches that freshen up the design. Not an easy thing to accomplish (24hr markers notwithstanding) and there’s no doubt that the whole is definitely greater than the sum of the parts. For my money this watch is just about impossible to beat on many levels. It has everything to be expected in terms of versatility, classic styling, the use of highest quality materials and a specification and performance that puts much higher priced watches using the same movement (or any movement) to shame.

If you’re not prepared to pay a considerable premium for a brand but instead prefer to spend your hard earned cash on style and quality alone, the Hamilton Khaki Field Automatic should definitely be at the top of your list of ‘Probables’ to seriously consider, especially if you’re looking for that ‘do everything’ one watch.


02-03-2010, 09:17 AM
Review of the Hamilton Jazzmaster Chronograph
By: John B. Holbrook, II

The Hamilton watch brand has a special place in my heart as one of the few watch companies (and one of the most well known) that started in the United States. The Hamilton Watch Company was founded in Lancaster, PA in 1892. Their first watch, produced by Hamilton co-founder H.J. Cain made its debut in 1893. Initial fame for Hamilton watches arrived when the railroad industry looked to Hamilton to help put an end to the frequent crashes of their locomotives. Hamilton again earned a place in U.S. history as Hamilton was named the official timepiece supplier to the Armed Forces by the U.S. Government. Some 20 years later in 1930, Hamilton captured a place in U.S. aviation history by being named official watch of TWA, Northwest, United, and Eastern airlines. Clearly Hamilton watches are incorporated as an important part of American history. Even though Hamilton was purchased and is currently owned by the Swiss Swatch Group, Hamilton still creates brand identity by aligning their watches with important symbols of American culture — like Jazz.

The Hamilton Jazzmaster Chronograph (reference number H32646555) is part of Hamilton’s American Classic line of watches. Upon first examining the time-piece, the aesthetic appeal of the watch is very strong. The shimmering champagne-colored dial complements the rose gold markers and hands. The mix of polished Arabic numerals and applied markers which encircle the dial provide both excellent legibility and symmetry. Additionally, the hour and minute hands have a luminescent coating applied for enhanced low-light visibility. A small second hand register is located at 6 o’clock, with a date display located between the 4 o’clock and 5 o’clock markers. The dial is protected by a scratch-resistant sapphire crystal. The 42mm stainless steel case has 10 microns of rose gold plating applied, with a mix of both polished and brushed finishes applied throughout. The gold plating gives the watch a very dressy, and warm appearance on the wrist. The chronograph pushers have a very pleasing, unique shape and I found them to be a joy to use. The case is rated for an impressive 100 meters of water resistance. Between the large, 22mm case lugs is a gorgeous leather strap with faux alligator grain, in rich medium brown featuring decorative tan stitching. The strap also features an impressive case-matching deployant — an impressive upgrade over the standard tang and buckle found on other timepieces at this price point.

The Jazzmaster Chronograph is powered by the Valjoux 7753, which is a variant of the classic Valjoux 7750 movement. The Valjoux 7753 is essentially the same movement as the more well known 7750, except the 7753 has the chronograph registers located at three, six, and nine o’clock. The movement (produced by ETA, a sister company to Hamilton which is also owned by The Swatch Group) appears to have very little fine finishing applied, outside the Hamilton logo engraving on the rotor. Given the price point of this timepiece, I wouldn’t expect to find luxury level finishing applied. The 7753 is a 27- jewel, self-winding chronograph movement and is considered somewhat “low tech” as far as mechanical chronographs go, but legendary for its stable and robust performance. The Valjoux 7753 is an excellent choice in the appealing yet unpretentious Jazzmaster Chronograph. The Valjoux 7753 has a vibration speed of 28,800 BPH, making it a “high-beat” movement, which strongly contributes to its stable, accurate performance.

I can find no aspect of the Jazzmaster Chronograph that does not impress me. It’s been quite some time since I’ve seen such a fine mechanical wristwatch which delivered such exceptional quality at such a modest price point — perhaps since I last reviewed an example from Hamilton. The suggested retail price for the Hamilton Jazzmaster Chronograph is $1,695. While some will not look kindly on the gold plating over the stainless steel case, I was extremely impressed with the workmanship, and you certainly can’t argue with the value. A genuine mechanical chronograph complication from one of the most recognizable watch marquees for well under $2,000.00 is almost unheard of. But it’s nice to know that there are still watch brands in the marketplace creating excellent examples of quality mechanical timepieces for the average consumer, and not just the “super rich.”

**Photos & Text Copyright 2010 WATCH TALK FORUMS INC. ( No part of this report can be reproduced outside of WATCH TALK FORUMS ( the expressed permission of John B. Holbrook, II. ([email protected])

02-03-2010, 10:07 AM
I was looking at my Jazzmaster Chrono the other day with that same sense of "wow". They are beautiful watches and very well constructed at a bargain of a price. Great review - thanks!


02-03-2010, 10:12 AM
Some picts of mine - with the 7750 in stainless. She wears black now...


02-05-2010, 02:54 PM
Wow, I love that watch, epml! I have been considering a X-wind but not the rose gold. Is that a rose gold?

02-06-2010, 08:12 AM
Here is my Jazzmaster, along with my other Hamiltons.

03-02-2010, 03:02 AM
Great info in here, learning a lot. Anyone have a Frogman review?

03-27-2010, 11:24 AM

My beloved Jazzmaster Chrono H323720. 37mm case, perfect for thin wrists like mine.

Wonderful birthday present from my wonderful partner. I couldn't be happier with it (and very reasonable priced as well)

04-07-2010, 02:56 PM
Baz, I stumbled upon your post and this forum while researching a new watch (as I'm sure many people do). I am by no means a WIS, but since a young age I have had a certain fascination with them. My current main timepiece is a Seiko SDWC85 stainless diver's watch that I purchased in 2000. It has served me well, but I've gotten my usual 10-year itch to have something different on my wrist, preferably with a band instead of bracelet. I very much value classic designs that I can envision myself wearing for many years. (I still have--and occasionally wear--my first Seiko Chronograph that I bought in 1987 during my junior year of high school.) I had been perusing Hamilton's web site and really liked the look of their Khaki field watches, and after reading your post, I'm convinced it is what I want. The only thing I'm hung up on, however, is the size. For one thing, my current Seiko (38mm, I believe) seems too small even on my smallish 7-inch wrist and you say in your post that the 38mm actually wears smaller than its size. Therefore, I've been leaning toward the 42mm version. So I have the following question: In your photo, the 38mm Khaki does, in fact, look really well-proportioned to your arm. If you don't mind, would you post your wrist measurement so that I can get an idea of the scale? In the end, it's not that big of a deal because if I don't like the size I order, I will just exchange it for the other, but I'd rather avoid that hassle. Thanks in advance.

01-29-2011, 11:51 PM
Model Reference Number: H60419533

Hi all. I received my Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Mechanical 42mm watch today!

I don't have the time to write up a huge review, so here is my condensed version.

-42mm, bead-blasted ss case with coin-edge
-vintage Superluminova (very nice so far)
-Gothic-type hour/minute hands
-The 21mm stock hand-made German leather band is not my taste, though comfortable and very well made (already have replacement en route from Steinhart)
-mvt is ETA 2801-2 manual-wind (center seconds). 28,800 bph, 8bps.
-domed sapphire crystal, ss case back (screwed in (not down)).

So far, I love the watch. It wears pretty regular as a 42mm (doesnt feel bigger or smaller). The case, imo, is perfectly thick. The slight dome to the crystal is just enough classy, as Hamilton always does it just right!

I LOVE the hour/minute hands, so fancy! I also LOVE the font for the numbers on the dial (of which is a matte black which appears brown do to the refracted light off the brown all over the rest of the watch).

Being 28,800 bph, the second hand is just as smooth as you're used to with the 2824-2 (as this movement is based on).

Manual winding is smooth as silk.

Overall, I love this watch. It is everything I was looking for: a field-style watch, manual wound, and dark brown!

Any questions or comments feel free to chime in! Enjoy the pics, not my best, but bare with me since I'm sleep deprived! lol.

07-10-2011, 03:18 PM
2335923360I purchased my Khaki Officer on December 23, 2010
Very pleased with this fine watch, nice and accurate too (3 seconds per day).
After 3 weeks the watch ran 2 minutes per day too fast.
I returned it for repair to the shop, they send it to the Hamilton repair center in The Netherlands.
Repair time was exactly 1 month (!!)

The watch then runs 1 minute fast per week. I was told that that is acceptable for an automatic watch. (??)
After some 3 months again the watch suddenly runs too fast, again some 2 minutes per day.

Again it was 'repaired', again that took 1 month, and now the watch runs 70 - 80 seconds too fast per week.
Also the back of the watch now shows minor damage, apparently it was hard to remove the back and some sharp item had been used to open it, while leaving scratches and small damage on the edges.

So after owning this Hamilton watch for 7 months, it was away for repair for 2 months, it is (still, again) running inaccurate and it seems to me it was repaired by an amateur in the Hamilton repair center in Holland.

I have again returned it to the shop in Brunssum where i have purchased the watch. They will see what they can do for me. Wow, lucky me!

The story has not ended yet: also i did sent a complain to Hamilton, using the email facility on their website.
They did not bother to send me any reply (that was 4 months ago, i have again posted a complain today).

Any one recognize the "Hamilton watch quality" and / or the Hamilton way of handling repairs to new watches, and / or Hamilton not bothering to respond to complaints of customers?

The shop where i have purchased the watch will provide a solution within 1 week.
Hope it is anything beyond repairing this watch or replacing it with another Hamilton watch. Think I just want my money back and forget about Hamilton.

Update July 20, 2011
After finding an email address of an Hamilton employee, dont ask me how I had layed my hands on that, I sent her the complain and from that on Hamilton reacted quickly, by phone and by contacting the shop owner.
Meanwhile the shop owner has taken the watch back, and I have purchased another watch with him (a Hamilton Pioneer).
In fact this has been his proposal from the beginning.
I trust Hamilton has learned from this issue, I have no knowledge about it. They have not contacted me further.

By the way, anyone interested in a spare, original Hamilton wrist wrap (22 mm), type H600765106, suitable for the Khaki Officer, and others, in the original sealed bag, also containing 2 mounting pins??

07-12-2011, 05:33 AM

I'm new to this forum and watches in general if i'm honest.

Having lurked a while when i was researching a quality watch to but for myself for around £400 I chose a hamilton based on all the good reviews and feedback.

So I just thought I'd share a few pictures with you all and thanks for the info.

So here it is: (got small wrists 18cm hence went for a 38mm but looks ok?)


Apparently it's the done thing to add a 'lume shot' :)


hope you like it, I think it's fantastic. I've had it for about 3 weeks and can't stop gazing at it :001_tt1:

07-12-2011, 05:41 AM
Welcome geeman to the Hamilton Forum.

that's a great score and i'm insanely jealous.

the great thing about Hamilton is the fact that they are a contagious disease (just like CC's).

visit and post as often as you can and get involved in the discussions here. It will enhance the ownership experience and we're all kooks at heart.

seeing as you've had it a few weeks lets see some action shots and give us a write up on the experience so far..



07-12-2011, 05:53 AM
the great thing about Hamilton is the fact that they are a contagious disease (just like CC's).

I know what you mean, I think this'll be on my wrist until either I break or the watch does...

07-12-2011, 06:27 AM
just one more thing...

It seems hamilton watches are as rare as rocking horse poo in the UK unless you buy online, yet when I was recently in Spain they're everywhere :001_unsure: . Anyone aware of good uk stockists or servicing centres?

08-04-2011, 02:27 PM
First time poster, also first time serious watch buyer, who has learned a lot from reading on this and other sites. I inherited a 10k gold Hamilton automatic from my father, who died in 1960. It worked well for many years until it finally broke down two years ago. Wasn't able to get it repaired. The Swatch group operation in New Jersey sent it back to me a month ago. I turned down their standard offer of a 30% discount on any new watch and decided to keep my dad's. Thanks to the online Hamilton catalogs posted elsewhere on this forum, I was able to identify the watch as a K-410 Automatic, first made in 1959 and sold for $100 -- recognizable immediately because of the use of Roman numerals. I may try again at some future date to get the watch repaired. If so, the resources on this forum will be invaluable.

In the meantime I bought a Hamilton Khaki Field Automatic, the watch reviewed a year ago by a poster names Baz. Because of the watch's association with the U.S. Army in World War II, I was disposed in its Hamilton's favor to begin with (my dad served in the 45th Division and saw extensive combat in Sicily, Italy, and France). Baz's writeup was hugely informative and helped me overcome my hesitation on dropping several hundred dollars (yes, I know the Hamilton line is at the lower end of the price spectrum of good watches, but that's dramatically more than I've ever paid for a watch in the past). I'm very satisfied with the watch, which seems to keep excellent time -- as nearly as I can tell, it's only 18 seconds off after ten days of use.

08-04-2011, 02:47 PM
I'm very satisfied with the watch, which seems to keep excellent time -- as nearly as I can tell, it's only 18 seconds off after ten days of use.

That is about 2 seconds per day, which is very accurate, well within the COSC Standards. Welcome to the Forum.

08-11-2011, 01:10 PM
A K-410 should be an easy fix. Sending a watch to the Netherlands sounds super strange. The parts for a K-410 are readily available and any experience watchmaker should be able to fix it in an hour or two. (Not a hobbyist, but a professional watchmaker).

Next, your new watch should not lose or gain any time at all --- period. Maybe a fraction of a second a year. Find a pro watchmaker (not me) and have him or her write Hamilton. Your watchmaker can probably supply a graphic of the timing. Then phone calls to Hamilton should follow.

Frankly, this timing thing is absurd. I watch people get the kind of timing of which I'm speaking on 50 year old and older watches on a bench behind me in school. These guys aren't professionals - they're students.

Good luck.

08-18-2011, 01:39 PM
A K-410 should be an easy fix. Sending a watch to the Netherlands sounds super strange. The parts for a K-410 are readily available and any experience watchmaker should be able to fix it in an hour or two. (Not a hobbyist, but a professional watchmaker).

Next, your new watch should not lose or gain any time at all --- period. Maybe a fraction of a second a year. Find a pro watchmaker (not me) and have him or her write Hamilton. Your watchmaker can probably supply a graphic of the timing. Then phone calls to Hamilton should follow.

Frankly, this timing thing is absurd. I watch people get the kind of timing of which I'm speaking on 50 year old and older watches on a bench behind me in school. These guys aren't professionals - they're students.

Good luck.

Many thanks for your reply -- I was at a conference in England last week and only today discovered your post.
On the K-410: I brought it to two reputable local jewelers, as well as sending it to the Swatch group, and got the same "no available parts" answer each time. I think at this point that if I want to restore the watch to service, I may have to buy another movement, if I'm using the right terminology.

08-19-2011, 04:18 AM

there are plenty of parts out there to fix the 64/661 series Hamilton automatics. There are a number of reputable guys here on the forum Omega564, Rikthewatchmaker and others who can easily deal with these watches.

the problem with buying replacement movements to scavenge for parts is the eternal one. Most of the problems you find on these auto's are found on all of them. You can buy 3 or 4 movements to canibalise for parts only to find that they all have the same problems.

the Kurth autos are robust and easily fixed.



08-19-2011, 07:34 PM

there are plenty of parts out there to fix the 64/661 series Hamilton automatics. There are a number of reputable guys here on the forum Omega564, Rikthewatchmaker and others who can easily deal with these watches.

the problem with buying replacement movements to scavenge for parts is the eternal one. Most of the problems you find on these auto's are found on all of them. You can buy 3 or 4 movements to canibalise for parts only to find that they all have the same problems.

the Kurth autos are robust and easily fixed.



I take it the "K" in K-410 stands for Kurth? And what, exactly, does "64/661 series" represent? You're talking to a total neophyte here. I've read enough posts on this forum to realize that the regulars are highly knowledgeable, and I have enjoyed what I've been able to glean from them.

If are people in this forum, or another one, who are willing to take on the repair work on my dad's Hamilton, I'm interested in getting in touch with them at some point. I take it you're referring me to someone in particular on the Omega564 forum. I am in no position to do the work myself, that's for sure.

Thanks for your reply!

Mike Hollerich (St. Paul, Minnesota)

08-19-2011, 08:21 PM
The 661 is the type of automatic movement. The Omega564, etc reference are members of the forum in the watch repair trade. You could also google watch repair, etc and find other, perhaps local watch makers to service your watch.

09-09-2011, 02:21 PM
I own the titanium khaki field watch. Purchased in December 2010. I am curious if anyone has any experience with this watch. I am finding the finish is very poor quality. The watch is titanium but for some reason Hamilton applies a cheap lacquer-like coating to the case and bracelet. The coating wears off easily with normal use. This is apparent between the links of the bracelet where the links touch and rub each other. Furthermore the movement of the watch is not reliable. In the summer it suddenly stopped working and had to be returned to Swatch in New Jersey for warranty repair. Well that was a big disappointment. They kept the watch for almost a month and returned it to me in August. I wore it a few times it suddenly fogged up with moisture on the inside. Apparently the Swatch repairman botched the gasket while doing the warranty repair. For a watch that costs almost $1000 I would expect better quality, craftsmanship and professional customer service. I am an experienced watch owner with a fondness for true mechanical watches. I caution anyone considering the Hamilton Titanium Khaki Field model to reconsider their choice. The movement is poor quality and titanium case and bracelet are painted with a cheap finish that wears off with normal use. I will post photos and copies of Swatch correspondence for those interested. Let me know.

09-14-2011, 01:29 AM
Dial great looking in matte black with silver numbers .. 6.9 and 12 are great and they play very well with large numbers on the bezel style team gear. The crown gear is gear look like to bring forward. The movement is ETA-2897. Accuracy is -2 sec / day, which is Preety good. On the reserve, I go to sleep with the indicator shows full and in the morning is about 75-80%. After I put about 2 hours going over the top.

09-14-2011, 03:08 AM
welcome Limepetro,

thanks for posting on your experience with your Hamilton.

perhaps you'd like to post some photographs of it along with a brief description of how you've found it?



04-06-2012, 07:24 PM

Now look at this watch. Going from left to right there is just about 1mm space in between number 45 another 1mm and you got number 9 and another 1mm and you have 21 number. If you do the same from right to left, between the date and hour 15, there is no space. But if you go between the date and 15 seconds mark there is a huge empty space....Seriously... why? The 38mm version doesn't have this issue. This made me wonder whether 42mm khaki field is simply a 38mm movement with a 42 mm dial. This was probably done to cut down costs. But now, if I'm spending anything over $300 on a watch it better have a consistent design and not some cheap dial. I've noticed that there are a lot of other Hamilton watches out there that have the same problem - date not spaced consistently with the hour/second numbers. So I opted out and khaki field and khaki officer and went for Hamilton Khaki Pilot 46mm, which as you can see has its dial designed from ground up, with no spacing issues and clearly visible numbers.

So this is my purchase after about a month of research and going back and forth between different models. First of all this watch is not as big as some people claim it to be, it feels just right on my wrist (I have average wrist size). The brown leather strap, simple design with black dial makes it look professional and good enough for my rotations at local hospital. The big seconds hand lets me easilly count down 15 seconds in a dim room and without straining my already poor eyes. Finally from design perspective the date/day window is placed proportionally the hour/min numbers. There is no awkward extra or too little space like found in khaki field automatic. On the other hand the triangle at the 12 o'clock position is facing the wrong way. This makes me wonder whether Hamilton designer had any knowledge of how WWII Pilot watches looked like. Going away from the design aesthetics, the strap seems to be not of a $500 watch quality. It is not falling apart yet but it doesn't look like it is going to last more than 6 months. Besides that, everything else seems to be of solid quality. Having day and date window at the correct position is a blessing. The watch also gains exactly 13 seconds per day, and this happens to be my lucky number. So I'm looking forward for this piece to serve me for years to come.

01-08-2013, 08:15 PM
Just got my Hamilton Clinton back from it's first service. I bought it in the New Orleans flea market from a gentleman who specialized in old watches...NIB in a blue box with a dried out unused grey leather band. 34988

Widows Son
02-20-2013, 09:34 AM
Good Lord!!!!!! Great reviews guys, some of them belong in a watch magazine (because of their thoroughness).