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two21b
11-06-2009, 08:37 AM
This is the place to research and show off you goodies for others
to admire... A library of Info and Photos!

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Hamilton Watch Forum member and vintage Hamilton collector Tom Diss (Vintagehamiltons) has been generous enough to share pictures and descriptions of his collection with us. A list of these watches follows. Click on any link to be taken to the thread.

Here are the Master HAMILTON LINKS:

64028-4 (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=19390) Barrel Plain (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=13064) Barrel Engraved (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=12837) Boone (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?p=156031) Bowman (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=16263) Brooke (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=15513) Cabot (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=15301) Cambridge (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=13677) Carlisle (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=16493) Clark (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=16445) Coleman (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=18507) Converta II (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=13555) Cushion B (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=14535) Cushion Engraved (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=15992) Cushion Form (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=12688) Cushion WWII (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=17339) Custer (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=15733) Dixon (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=21054) Dodson (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=15928) Douglas (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=16601) Drake (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=13011) Endicott (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=18333) Ellsworth (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=14760) Gent's Wrist Watch (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=15883) Gladstone (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=20963) Grant (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=13806) Greenwich (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=12951) Hastings (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=17013) Heyward (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=14736) Judson (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=17798) K-454 (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=18589) Lincrest (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=12163) Lyndon (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=19078) Mason (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=14849) Medford (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=18296) Merritt (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=15207) Meteor (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=19176) Morley (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=15103) Mt. Vernon (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?p=196404) Oval (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=13589) Perry (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=13520) Rodney (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=18554) Ross (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=16349) Russell (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=16978) Rutledge (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=16017) Scott (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=14475) Sea-lectric II (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=19355) Sentinel (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=17315) Sherwood (Seneca) (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=16159) Sherwood N (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=19143) Sidney (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=16225) Square B (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=13780) Square Engraved (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=12798) Steeldon (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=11998) Stormking IV (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=18762) Sutton (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=15685) Talbot (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=16307) T-403 (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=19254) Taylor (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=14488) Thincraft II (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=22407) Thor (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=13361) Tonneau (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=13110) Transcontinental A (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=19105) Vancott (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=17631) Watson (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?p=151114#post151114) Webster (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=15374) Winthrop (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=16532) Yorktowne (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=17102)

Tom's experiences in the collecting field can be viewed here (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=14772).

In addition, Will Roseman wrote an excellent series of articles on Hamilton watches. The articles are archived here (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/showthread.php?t=11523).



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ELGIN SERIAL NUMBERS:
http://elginwatches.org/databases/elgin_sn_intro.html

ELGIN DIAL REFERENCE:
https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/american-watch-forum/57704.htm#post522351

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Photo Tutorial:
https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/general-discussion-forum/47072.htm

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Case Markings site:
https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/american-watch-forum/41977.htm

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Favorite Watch Books/References:
https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/american-watch-forum/40113.htm

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Military Codes (Casebacks):

OA for 7- to 9-jewel pocket watches.
OB for 15- to 17-jewel pocket watches.
OC for 7- to 9-jewel wrist watches. (non-waterproof case)
OD for 15-to 17-jewel wrist watches. (non-waterproof case)
OE for 21-jewel railroad grade pocket watches.
OF for 15- to 17-jewel wrist watches (waterproof case).
OFA for 15- to 16-jewel wrist watch, waterproof case, Air Corps (Navigation, Type A-11, substitute standard).
OG for 7- to 9-jewel wrist watch (waterproof case).
OS for stop watch.

For watches manufactured prior to 12 November 1940, there were no letter codes.
The following identification was added when the watch was returned for repair.

OW for 7- to 9-jewel pocket watches.
OX for 15- to 17-jewel pocket watches.
OY for 7-to 9-jewel wrist watches. (non-waterproof case)
OZ for 15- to 17-jewel wrist watches. (non-waterproof case)


Stan's Incredible Military Ads Find:
https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/american-watch-forum/57675.htm


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WHAT IS A HACKING WATCH?
https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/american-watch-forum/57194.htm#post517572

Ham X Guy
11-06-2009, 03:18 PM
Wow, fantastic job compiling all of those beautiful Hamiltons of Tom's Two21!:thumbup1:

Great pictures to.

If I had my choice, I would take either the Sea Lectric II or the Thor. I love the Thor! I really love the Hamilton asymetricals.:tongue_smilie:

So which one of Tom's Hamiltons do you guys want?:D

RJ007
11-06-2009, 10:53 PM
I want the K-475!!!!!
They are an arm and a leg, but one of the most beautiful
and wild looking watches I have ever seen!!!:001_tt1:

Vintagehamiltons
11-07-2009, 02:29 PM
The K-475 is my grail.

Ham X Guy
11-07-2009, 10:28 PM
The K-475 sounds like some watch.

Do you have a picture of one?

By-the-way, the name K-475 sounds like an enemy submarine!:laugh:

ulackfocus
11-08-2009, 07:09 AM
The K-475 sounds like some watch.

Do you have a picture of one?


Tom has posted pictures of it before:

http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t340/Vintagehamiltons/WTF/K-475b.jpg

http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t340/Vintagehamiltons/WTF/K-475.jpg

Ham X Guy
11-08-2009, 07:20 AM
To has posted pictures of it before:

http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t340/Vintagehamiltons/WTF/K-475b.jpg

http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t340/Vintagehamiltons/WTF/K-475.jpg

Yeah, now I know why everyone wants one.

Very cool looking!

I'm guessing if Tom doesn't have one by now, they must be a rare breed, eh?:confused1:

Vintagehamiltons
11-08-2009, 09:13 AM
Two or three a year show up on eBay.

gatorcpa
11-08-2009, 02:50 PM
NAWCC Chapter 149 has posted serial number databases of several American watch companies here:

http://www.nawcc-ch149.com/pw_dbresearch.html

These databases go through the 1930's for Hamilton, at least.

Here is a link to some more old Hamilton catalogs and other information:

http://library.ihc185.com/catalogs/

Hope this helps,
gatorcpa

RJ007
12-17-2009, 03:23 PM
Hey Hamilton guys...
I have had this little guy for years and can't seem
to find out what it is...
It is 14 solid gold with diamonds on the face...

Any ideas!

http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg387/greghart007/P1030272.jpg
http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg387/greghart007/P1030273.jpg
http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg387/greghart007/P1030274.jpg
http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg387/greghart007/P1030275.jpg
http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg387/greghart007/P1030276.jpg
http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg387/greghart007/P1030277.jpg

Thanks for the help!

stales
01-19-2010, 03:29 AM
Hey Hamilton guys...
I have had this little guy for years and can't seem
to find out what it is...
It is 14 solid gold with diamonds on the face...

Any ideas!

Thanks for the help!

At a W I L D guess I would say it is one of the Lord Lancaster series; c 1966.

I don't have Rene's book (so don't have a ref for all models), but refer p844 Shugart et al 2009; note overall similarities to Lord Lancaster 'B' and 'H' - and facial similarity to the 'H' in particular.

stales

Endicott
10-20-2010, 06:58 AM
The others and I added some new models with pictures to the series:

- Lawrence (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/hamilton-watch-forum/44755.htm)
- Wilshire (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/hamilton-watch-forum/43849.htm)
- Carson (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/hamilton-watch-forum/43909.htm)

Ham X Guy
10-20-2010, 06:43 PM
Thanks for adding those beauties Markus!:thumbup1:

Endicott
11-12-2010, 10:21 AM
Another two:
- Bagley (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/hamilton-watch-forum/45420.htm)
- Raleigh Plain (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/hamilton-watch-forum/45679.htm)

Endicott
12-02-2010, 07:41 AM
- Vincent (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/hamilton-watch-forum/45975.htm)

Besides the Raleigh Plain thread mentioned above is now a general Raleigh thread with pictures and informations to both, the Plain and the Engraved version.

RJ007
12-03-2010, 12:42 AM
Thanks for another fantastic Hammy with the American Gang Markus!!!:thumbup:

Endicott
12-09-2010, 01:45 AM
- Paige (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/hamilton-watch-forum/46069.htm#post416571)
- Linwood (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/hamilton-watch-forum/46139.htm#post417232)

RJ007
12-09-2010, 09:33 PM
- Paige (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/hamilton-watch-forum/46069.htm#post416571)
- Linwood (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/hamilton-watch-forum/46139.htm#post417232)

Markus... thanks again!

Endicott
01-18-2011, 01:54 PM
Another one and the first in 2011:
- Harris (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/hamilton-watch-forum/47245.htm)

GeneJockey
08-28-2011, 05:20 PM
I got a bunch of Elgins in July - some back from my 'guys', some scooped up on the Swamp.

First up is an oldie but a goodie - this Elgin 761, back from the spa. New crystal, but sadly it's got stress cracks, so I'll have to replace it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/genejockey/Elgin7611.jpg

Also back from the spa, this Lord Elgin Meridian, a Horizon Look watch with the 724 movement. This is one that Elgin seems to mave made for about a year, likely because the sweep second hand drive has a flaw that leads to jerky motion. When I got it, it was missing its sweep second pinion. I found a 630 movement with the pinion, but no sweep second wheel, and my watchmaker put the bits together. And the motion is jerky. Oh, well.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/genejockey/LordElgin724Meridian.jpg

Another newly serviced watch is this 1938 Lord Elgin. It's an incorrect redial (should be a star, and not 'dp'), but it's so elegant I just love it!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/genejockey/LordElgin5382.jpg

It's got the 538 21j movement, the first of the 15/0 21j movements.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/genejockey/Elgin538mvt.jpg

While we're on 15/0s, I also picked up this Lord Elgin from 1944. Needs a new crystal and a 14mm strap when I get to it...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/genejockey/LordElgin559.jpg

That one came with an Elgin Sinclair, with an 8/0 683 movement. It needs its faceted crystal to be more correct.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/genejockey/ElginSinclair.jpg

Another newly serviced, if mundane little watch, this Lord Elgin with a 750. I had it redialed, because the original dial had big pieces of flaking clearcoat that actually stopped the hands. Not perfectly done, but okay. The watch itself is a little thing, only about an inch in diameter.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/genejockey/LordElgin7503.jpg

I also picked up a Lord Elgin 'Glencove', with a Swiss Elgin 664 movement, on a whim. Runs like a top, and it's a nice size.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/genejockey/LordElgin654Glencove.jpg

Here's another Swamp pickup - a square Elgin with a 732. The movement needs cleaning but it otherwise good. Dial could use TLC...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/genejockey/Elgin732Square.jpg

And another Swamp pickup - this one fills a niche in my collection - the 715 13/0 17j Shockmaster movement. It's going to need some work - there was a lot of congealed oil all over the movement and inside the case - even on the inside of the crystal!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/genejockey/Elgin715Trinidad.jpg

Now I have 711-715, 718 and a 724. The remaining ones are the 716 (only seen one, ever) and the 717, 719, 721 - those are the Direct Reads. I'm not really keen on them and they're expensive, so I will do without them pending winning the lottery!

Another 'niche filler' is this Elgin with a 676 19j Shockmaster 15/0 movement. According to the Elgin database, only 1000 of these were made.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/genejockey/Elgin676.jpg

I saw another one last week but close inspection of the pictures revealed that the balance cock was standard (not a Shockmaster), so that one was bastardized. Not mine, though! No, mine just needs cleaning, a redial, a balance staff, and some way to attach the caseback (see this thread (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/american-watch-forum/53381.htm))

And last, the one I'm most proud of. Earlier this year, you may recall, I posted a thread on taking down an Elgin 761 automatic (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/american-watch-forum/51887.htm) that was in such good condition that I went ahead and put it back together, just to see if I could. Well I did, and it worked! When my 'guy' sent back the completed 761 at the top, he also returned all the parts movements and watches I'd sent him. One of them had a nice case and dial, so I swapped in the newly fixed (BY ME!!) movement, and here it is - a working watch!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/genejockey/Elgin7613.jpg

RJ007
08-29-2011, 12:32 AM
That is quite a haul!!!

I think you are now gonna be referred to as "Mr. Elgin"

A Few more and it is gonna be Dr. Elgin!!!:laugh:

WOW:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/genejockey/Elgin676.jpg

Indyago
08-29-2011, 08:17 AM
I already refer to him as Dr. Elgin. :wink: Very nice collection you are assembling. The fact you do more homework than anyone I know, will advance Elgin/Lord Elgin collecting for many other collectors who happen by this forum! Not to mention the self satisfaction you can take from your work, congratulations! :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

RJ007
08-29-2011, 01:24 PM
I already refer to him as Dr. Elgin. :wink: Very nice collection you are assembling. The fact you do more homework than anyone I know, will advance Elgin/Lord Elgin collecting for many other collectors who happen by this forum! Not to mention the self satisfaction you can take from your work, congratulations! :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

#1

And Stan is General Elgin:wink:

GeneJockey
08-29-2011, 02:26 PM
Aw, gee, thanks, guys! There's a lot of information out there, but it's nowhere near as well organized and documented as it is for Hamilton. And to be honest, my collecting has been made easier by that fact. Cheaper, anyway - that 676 only cost me $36. Of course, it's got a crappy dial, it's not running, and 3 of the 4 case back screw holes are stripped. Hey, maybe it WASN'T such a deal.... :huh:

Indyago
08-30-2011, 10:03 AM
GJ,

I have four or five interesting designed watches I have picked up as reclamation projects that I have to restore just be able to take before shots. :lol:

Hopefully, they will be something someday, and hopefully, I will be posting them sooner than later..........:001_unsure:

But, really, I have been amazed at how well some soiled dials clean up so, there is hope. Oh, and they are an Elgin, a Lord Elgin, a Benrus, a Waltham, and a Hamilton dating from the teens to the 50's.

I will post the oldest, an Elgin as soon as I take a couple of good pictures. :001_smile:

GeneJockey
08-30-2011, 02:39 PM
That 676 dial isn't just dirty, it's also rubbed through the finish between 9:00 and 11:00, AND the applied markers at 3:00 and 9:00 are loose. 'Saliva on a Q-tip' did a little, but not enough! I think it's due for a trip to ID.

Indyago
08-31-2011, 10:50 AM
http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae17/indyago/DSC00255.jpg

Okay, so this isn't the oldest one. But, it is pretty cool. 14Kgf, with a 21 jewel 670 movement. Runs a little fast but, overall, in very nice condition. I think the dial shows just enough wear to look it's age.

I looked at ads for about an hour last night and didn't find a picture or, a name or model number. But, I did find another auction from a high-end seller, (that is not a sponsor, so, I am not posting a link) for a very nice example of this same watch.

In the other auction photos, I was surprised to see the triangular lines on the flared lugs were filled with black enamel. Makes for a very elegant look. I can't wait to try that with mine.

I will post some after photos when I get everything put in shape.:wink:

Valtyr
08-31-2011, 10:57 AM
GJ

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/genejockey/LordElgin654Glencove.jpg

I absolutely love this unique look.

How many Elgin's do you have now? I'm impressed!

GeneJockey
08-31-2011, 11:20 AM
Indyago, that's a Thornton (http://books.google.com/books?id=S0gEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA83&dq=lord+elgin+1954&hl=en&ei=mF9eTqCDEqbliAKm-vmyBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false)

Valtyr, As of Monday (when I received a beat up, but easily fixable Lord Elgin Randall with what appears to be an original black dial, 58. Don't tell my wife!

Indyago
08-31-2011, 12:53 PM
Indyago, that's a Thornton (http://books.google.com/books?id=S0gEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA83&dq=lord+elgin+1954&hl=en&ei=mF9eTqCDEqbliAKm-vmyBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false)

Valtyr, As of Monday (when I received a beat up, but easily fixable Lord Elgin Randall with what appears to be an original black dial, 58. Don't tell my wife!

As I said, "you are the man"! Thanks for the help!

58, that is just a minor affliction! (But, don't tell my wife I said that either!) Note to self, must sell some of my cast offs........................

GeneJockey
08-31-2011, 01:14 PM
As I said, "you are the man"! Thanks for the help!

For future reference, here's how I do it:

Go to books.google.com. Type 'Elgin Watch' as the query.

A Life Magazine should appear as one of the results.

Click on it, then look in the upper left corner. Under a small picture of the cover, there's your query. Click the 'search all issues' box, and you can see all the Elgin Watch ads that were in Life magazine for about 30 years.

If you add a year to the query ('Elgin Watch 1954'), it will limit it to that year.


58, that is just a minor affliction! (But, don't tell my wife I said that either!) Note to self, must sell some of my cast offs........................

And it all started so innocently.

I wanted to buy more Hamiltons, then I noticed how much cheaper Elgins were. I start looking into them, and next thing I know, I'm picking them up at > 1/week! :scared:

Valtyr
08-31-2011, 02:12 PM
Holy cow!!!

Haha, that is an amazing collection.

Do you have a group shot of all of 'em???

GeneJockey
08-31-2011, 03:37 PM
Now that I think about it, it's not 58 Elgins.

There are 5 Hamiltons, and 5 Bulovas. So it's only 48.

And two of those are women's models, so that's only 46.

6 of those are in pieces awaiting restoration, so that's only 40.

Mind you, this doesn't include the 30 or so parts movements I have....

GeneJockey
08-31-2011, 03:42 PM
Holy cow!!!

Haha, that is an amazing collection.

Do you have a group shot of all of 'em???

No, but there's always this thread (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/american-watch-forum/52255-2.htm#post474071). That's got MOST of them.

salleh
08-31-2011, 04:04 PM
Hmmmm......this must be a week of twinsies ....check out how much this Waltham resembles your 23 Jewel round one .......

( this is my everyday watch, utterly reliable, and very nice looking)

http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/sallyshoaf/watchesjune2010069ab.jpg

Indyago
09-01-2011, 10:39 AM
For future reference, here's how I do it:

Go to books.google.com. Type 'Elgin Watch' as the query.

A Life Magazine should appear as one of the results.

Click on it, then look in the upper left corner. Under a small picture of the cover, there's your query. Click the 'search all issues' box, and you can see all the Elgin Watch ads that were in Life magazine for about 30 years.

If you add a year to the query ('Elgin Watch 1954'), it will limit it to that year.



A magician doesn't normally give up his secrets but, I certainly appreciate you sharing your method!

That is the best I have seen to this point for Elgin watches specifically. I have been struggling looking for info and pictures since I got interested in watches.

I, to this point, have searched through the advertisement thread here on the 'American', and browsed the ebay listings for watch ads. But, this is definitely a very rich source of information! Thank you again for sharing! :thumbup1::thumbup1:

Greg, maybe this should be part of a sticky or a 'new' sticky at the top of the forum?

GeneJockey
09-01-2011, 11:03 AM
Ever since Stan posted about all the old Elgin stuff in the Elgin museum, I've been wondering whether they might have catalogs, like the Hamilton catalogs posted on that forum. Makes me want to go there with a scanner and a laptop, and spend a week plowing through the files!

Indyago
09-01-2011, 12:49 PM
I agree, that does sound like a good lead.

I visited the Elgin, IL Historical Society website and it seems they use the old watch manufacturing info mainly for specific inquiries people might have about a particular watch or movement.

http://www.elginhistory.org/research_services.html

For a fee of $10 they will research your watch and send you info on it and other related topics.

Sounds like a nice resource for families trying to find out info about a family piece. But, maybe not so much for collectors looking for more broad scoping information. I am sure it provides some revenue stream for a non-profit historical society.

Maybe Stan can refresh us on his experience there?

There is mention of an Elgin National Watch Company exhibit. But, not a lot about what it contains. They do picture a couple of historically pertinent pocket watches on the site.

RJ007
09-02-2011, 12:29 AM
A magician doesn't normally give up his secrets but, I certainly appreciate you sharing your method!

That is the best I have seen to this point for Elgin watches specifically. I have been struggling looking for info and pictures since I got interested in watches.

I, to this point, have searched through the advertisement thread here on the 'American', and browsed the ebay listings for watch ads. But, this is definitely a very rich source of information! Thank you again for sharing! :thumbup1::thumbup1:

Greg, maybe this should be part of a sticky or a 'new' sticky at the top of the forum?

GREAT IDEA!

I have re-tooled the thread and merged it into 'THE LIBRARY" at the top of the Forum...

Now we can head there for resources and photos for all to refer and add to!

Nice thinking!:thumbup1:

Indyago
09-02-2011, 08:21 AM
Thanks, Greg!:thumbup1:

Endicott
10-18-2011, 04:06 AM
Added the following:
- Dickens (https://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/hamilton-watch-forum/55182.htm#post500632)