Planet Ocean Markings

[indy78]

Is there suppose to be an emobossed horse shoe Omega emblem on the outer edge of the rear of the watch back next to the words Planet Ocean to prevent replicas? I know there is a horse shoe in the center of the watch back below the horse.

[indy78]

When did Omega start putting the laser engraved anti-counterfeit logo on the case back of their Planet Oceans? Also, is there a way to determine the age of a PO by the serial number?

[Wetworks]

When did Omega start putting the laser engraved anti-counterfeit logo on the case back of their Planet Oceans? Also, is there a way to determine the age of a PO by the serial number?

I want to say that it started in 2007, but that wouldn't mean that a watch sold in 2007 (or 2008 for that matter) was manufactured then.

The serial number would help in determining the age of the watch, yes. Scroll down to the bottom of this link for Omega:

Rolex, Panerai, Omega serial numbers and production dates

I merged this with the other thread you created.

Additionally, the "horse shoe" is simply referred to as the symbol 'omega', the last letter in the Greek alphabet. The "horse" is called a hippocamp.

[indy78]

Thanks, I will check my serial number against the list. I was just wondering since my PO does not have the anti-counterfeit mark after the words "Planet Ocean."

[indy78]

What's the difference between the "Watch Number" listed on the International Warranty and Chronometer Certificate and the serial number you metioned that is marked on the movement? Is there a way to date a watch by the "Watch Number?"

[jmsrolls]

The serial number would help in determining the age of the watch, yes.

I beg to disagree. The number is engraved on the movement part during the production process. It might be some time, even years, before the engraved part is incorporated into an assembled movement. And then it might be some additional time before the movement is placed into the actual watch awaiting shipment and distribution.

The only way to accurately determine the production date of an Omega is to request, and pay for, an Abstract of Authenticity.

From my experience, movement number charts are unreliable.

Fr. John†

[Wetworks]

I beg to disagree. The number is engraved on the movement part during the production process. It might be some time, even years, before the engraved part is incorporated into an assembled movement. And then it might be some additional time before the movement is placed into the actual watch awaiting shipment and distribution.

The only way to accurately determine the production date of an Omega is to request, and pay for, an Abstract of Authenticity.

From my experience, movement number charts are unreliable.

Fr. John†

Well, naturally I will defer to your experience at almost every turn. Thanks for adding this important piece of information Fr. John. Hopefully it will assist the OP in determining what he is seeking.

[indy78]

Well, naturally I will defer to your experience at almost every turn. Thanks for adding this important piece of information Fr. John. Hopefully it will assist the OP in determining what he is seeking.

Fr. John, your point makes sense. I was attempting to approximate the year of manufacture based on the watch number. Similar to how Rolex uses a letter to designate a year in which the watch was manufactured. I have both a T & Z series Rolex and have used those two letters to approximate the year it was manufactured.

[jmsrolls]

Fr. John, your point makes sense. I was attempting to approximate the year of manufacture based on the watch number. Similar to how Rolex uses a letter to designate a year in which the watch was manufactured. I have both a T & Z series Rolex and have used those two letters to approximate the year it was manufactured.

The problem is what I term the "parts bin" factor. The movement numbers are engraved on a particular movement part and placed in a bin for later assembly. Eventually the engraved part is incorporated into the assembly of a movement. The movement is then placed on a shelf until needed for a particular watch.

These steps are random and not "first in, first out" so any correlation between the movement number and production date is purely arbitrary.

Omega considers the "production date" to be the ship date from Bienne regardless of the movement number. Requesting an Abstract will show the ship date.

Rolex on the other hand engraves the serial number on the movement and watch in the final assembly. Up until recently, the numbers were in sequence preceded by a letter which gave some indication of the production year. Rolex no longer does this but instead assigns random numbers without reference to the date of production.

Fr. John†

[aaron]

Here is an example of dates. I bought this new Bond GMT in 2005 when they were first released, they had only been on the market for sveral months. When I ordered the COSC papers from Omega it was intersting to note the test date of the movement. (Look at the photo) Two and a bit years had passed.

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