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    Exclamation Current status report on 2009 models 7/29/09.

    I will post more updates as we have news to report. Right now our dials are still sitting in customs while our agent is getting our paperwork handled with them. Here is what is in the works first as this is which dials are on the way. The rest of the dials will be arriving as they are finished within the next 60 days.

    1) Bull45 A5 70pcs.

    A1 / A2 / A3 / A4 about 70pcs. each.
    more cases coming along from quick repairs.

    2) The 50 pcs. Swiss Movts' UT6498 are tuned and ready to build the B2H models now.

    3) B2 about 130pcs.
    B3 about 100pcs.

    4) Tungsten cases should arrive tomorrow ..if ok .. we can get started with the M6
    about 100 pcs

    5) M automatic and C series movements are currently under alot of testing with the longer "hotrod" mainsprings that are currently installed in them, right now we are trying to fine tune the length and tension of the spring as timing is not consistant through the full 80+ hours power reserve (timing perfect to +/- 3-5 seconds/day at full wind and losing 1-2 minutes/day at about the 20 hours power reserve point.).

    The solution we think is getting the mainspring length, tempering, and tension exactly right. A few more springs will arrive in a few days that we will test out. Worst case we will use the standard mainsprings and cut the power reserve in order to keep accurate timing in check. Since it's automatic winding i feel that the timing would be more important than power reserve time.

    I will keep everyone posted and emailed about what we decide to do with this one. Hopefully we just can get the spring length to the sweet spot! This actually affected about 50% of the movements and not all of them so we are testing them against each other to find out why. I do like to play it safe with anything like this and if it's not worked out by mid August we are going to be fitting the standard length mainsprings so we don't have another delay. If we do revert to the standard springs, We will also reduce the price of these models accordingly as we would be reducing a feature of this movement.

    6) M9 cases about 60% not passing the 10ATM test. Found slightly undersize pusher seals on all including the ones that passed the pressure test. Easy fix, new seals should take about 2 weeks to arrive then we will knock out the first 100 M9s or so until more dials are ready. We are changing the seals in ALL M chronographs just to be sure. We use an underwater Bergeon pressure tester so we can see actual leak spots if there are any.

    That's all the news for now! We will work on them as dials arrive. They will be shipped to us a few hundred at a time now through September for all models.
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    Thanks for the update. I've just e-mailed my reservation info for the A5 :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord_shar View Post
    Thanks for the update. I've just e-mailed my reservation info for the A5 :)
    Thank you sir:) The Bull45s are going fast! I have to update the site tomorrow with the quantities.
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    Hey Ray, so the M chrono dials are not in this first patch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wuman82 View Post
    Hey Ray, so the M chrono dials are not in this first patch?
    Correct. Only the M9 dials. The rest should be very soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Knight View Post
    5) M automatic and C series movements are currently under alot of testing with the longer "hotrod" mainsprings that are currently installed in them, right now we are trying to fine tune the length and tension of the spring as timing is not consistant through the full 80+ hours power reserve (timing perfect to +/- 3-5 seconds/day at full wind and losing 1-2 minutes/day at about the 20 hours power reserve point.).

    The solution we think is getting the mainspring length, tempering, and tension exactly right. A few more springs will arrive in a few days that we will test out. Worst case we will use the standard mainsprings and cut the power reserve in order to keep accurate timing in check. Since it's automatic winding i feel that the timing would be more important than power reserve time.
    That's rather disappointing. So, what would be the end result with the PR? About 40-50 hours?

    Anyway, thanks for the update, Chris.
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    Quote Originally Posted by India Whiskey Charlie View Post
    That's rather disappointing. So, what would be the end result with the PR? About 40-50 hours?

    Anyway, thanks for the update, Chris.
    Yes it is dissapointing, but it is what it is. We are working on it. The standard springs have minimum 38 hours PR. We have seen about 42.
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    Thanks for the update.

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    hey Ray, can you maybe put some pictures up of the dials that came in, so I have something to look at while I wait?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wuman82 View Post
    hey Ray, can you maybe put some pictures up of the dials that came in, so I have something to look at while I wait?
    We will have some pics to share in a few days :)
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